Why is Poitier an insecure fakkit? Alway pickin on other black groups :dahell:

IllmaticDelta

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You said reggae was nothing more than A Jamaican version of soul music which is why I'm disagreeing

Reggae has become its own distinct genre

Where as something like this you could say is a French version of trap



It's a Jamaican version of Soul music + their own ideas. Just like Ska was a Jamaican version of R&B + their own ideas



 

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The ones that try to act superior are usually from that class i.e Indians, Chinese, Nigerians,etc. Meanwhile the poorer ones are the most humble, especially Guatemalans. :ehh:
i don't really want to go into it too much (i tried before but got accused of hating AAs) but personally i think its impressive for a black immigrant to come to America and suceed/make it into the middle class
 

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The ones that try to act superior are usually from that class i.e Indians, Chinese, Nigerians,etc. Meanwhile the poorer ones are the most humble, especially Guatemalans. :ehh:
Maybe for those groups, but not with the west indians I grew up with. The nikkas was poor as hell, thought I was too because we all lived in the same neighborhood, and went to school together, but I wasn't poor, and them nikkas thought they was better then black americans. Not all of them, it was the ones who always talked with an accent, and hung out with each other.

I can't front, though, Hatians had it hard. Everyone dissed them, I even remember some of my friends saying they were Jamaican so they wouldn't get disses. That's why I was so happy for them when they started embracing themselves with pride. Didn't think they would still be looking down on us, yet don't say shyt to everyone else who shytted on them. I don't get mad because I deal with reality, and reality tells me, them nikkas gonna feel that sting of racism, eventually. They just need to go around other groups instead of their own.
 

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Sometimes I watch things like this and i'm like :snoop:



This chick said americans use the system, and are lazy, but a lot of them are the masters of the con game.

Also, notice how they are talking shyt from ORLANDO, FLORIDA. They are living in a place that is cheap as hell, and they really think they are better then others?

They look at some who are lazy, and say most of us are like that, but if you say the same to them, hell will be raised! Try it, and see for yourself.
 

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It's a Jamaican version of Soul music + their own ideas. Just like Ska was a Jamaican version of R&B + their own ideas




this is ska and thats not what you originally said
Modern Dancehall is a bit more based on Jamaican invention but I can't say the same for Reggae. It's nothing more than a Jamaican version of Soul music.
 

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this is ska and thats not what you originally said

:dwillhuh: R&B is to Ska what Soul ended up being for Reggae is my point. Soul laid the foundation for Jamaican's to invent Reggae whereas Jamaican's didn't follow anything musically from Aframs to make the musical sound of dancehall.
 

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:dwillhuh: R&B is to Ska what Soul ended up being for Reggae is my point. Soul laid the foundation for Jamaican's to invent Reggae whereas Jamaican's didn't follow anything musically from Aframs to make the musical sound of dancehall.
your OG comment you said reggae is just a Jamaican version of soul which i think we can agree its more than just that
 

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Who told you this?

I'm wondering do people even read some post on here because @IllmaticDelta has been proving this isn't true for at least a couple of years, yet people keep saying the same thing! I feel like I'm in bizzaro land.

BTW, Kool Herc invented using breakbeats has his style, that is it. It's still a big contribution, but you don't ignore everyone else who came before him. And you don't say because he came form Jamaica that means hip hop came from Jamaica. He was a kid in Jamaica, so he couldn't get into the jams.

I hate repeating this because it sounds like I'm beefing with Jamaicans, but I don't understand why people don't except the truth by now. Are people that weak minded that they need to except a lie, instead of the truth, to feel good about themselves?:jbhmm:


who told me this? Nas LOL.



And from there i did some add'l research and it seemed that Kool Herc was considered as the person who created it. I never thought that was in question. The reason I brought it up was due to the fact that he was Jamaican which caught me off guard. It wasn't something I knew. And I also learned about Afrika Bambataa and him going back to Africa and then changing his crew up to start the Zulu nation.

But the homie @IllmaticDelta came through with cited sources and I even dapped and repped him.

Again, check the post history, I don't come at people with any BS. My whole thing is about building up the African Diaspora. While people on this thread may argue that AA's have nothing to do with the caribbean and africans, I personally know a lot of younger AA who are excited to learn about Africa and Ethiopia and are interested in visiting so I'm gonna keep on building where I can build. And another thing Esco said was no ideas original. People been building off each other for years. It's really hard to know who started what, but it's great to see all these different influences in the music.

Like I said, I respect the AA as a tribe and I'm not trying to say that we are all the same tribe, but our tribes are all part of the same (whatever a group of tribes is called) just like all the euro's are part of the same (whatever) and the asians are part of the same (whatever). I build with my nigerian brothers and my jamaican brothers and my afram brothers. People ain't hiring yall out here. fukk it, you got a great degree. Come to Ethiopia for a couple years, help develop the country, and fall in love with Africa. In my humble opinion, that is our only hope as a (whatever) and some tribes may fare better than others at first but obviously someone has to lead. Garvey was from Jamaica...Kwama Ture is from Trinidad... Selassie from Ethiopia. All were leaders fundamental in the "movement." This, we did it on our own thing seems to me to be a new concept that has started over the last 20-03 years as pan africanism was being destroyed by American national interest who decided it was in America's best interest to have Black America not band together with Black Africa.
 

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i don't really want to go into it too much (i tried before but got accused of hating AAs) but personally i think its impressive for a black immigrant to come to America and suceed/make it into the middle class

Im not knocking them but this is part of self selection. Im sure it's the same if you compared an Afram living in the UK or any other European nation to the average British Black/Black Euro's who has been there for generations.
 

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By the way, can someone change the thread title LOL. No reason to have a meaningful convo in a thread coming at @Poitier
 

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They have no damn right to even think of us as "lazy". I would never dare move to Bahia, Brazil and look at the locals as "lazy". Unlike me who is a "selective immigrant" I was not born/raised under their system...

Most of these immigrants are nothing more than selective groups from their country.

I don't know why people can't grasp this. For example in this thread...

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/russ...ch-love-for-black-american-men.378859/page-12

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/russ...uch-love-for-black-american-men.378859/page-5


Yeah africans in europe are parallel to mexicans over here. They're seen as leeches to the system and a lot of drugs in europe come from West african cartels

Most AA in europe are in the military, students, basketball players or higher social/monetary standing so the experience is more positive.

Does help that AA are seen as 'cool' world wide through the arts.(music entertainment ect)



nah its not that because the ones here are students, heck one of my neighbors and good friends was the son of a senator in nigeria.

its that a lot of nigerians are drug dealers and in japan, pimps. whereas AAs, if they're traveling all the way across the planet, they usually have money and an open mind, southside chicago nikkas arent flying to japan on vacation. so when they meet AAs they have good impressions because the ones representing are middle class professional black americans.

^^those are clear examples how self selection work.
 
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