Why is Poitier an insecure fakkit? Alway pickin on other black groups :dahell:

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I completely ignore them, some of them just want a reaction. Like who cares about Dominicans like that lets be real?
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yes we did. Known fact. Also some of the biggest contributors to the genre. Biggie just to name one. The whole fukking trap scene just to name 2.

I most definetly am African American. Deal with it.gif

Sorry, if you're Jamaican that's cool:salute: but yall ain't pioneer HipHop:russell:There are more traceable Afram influences in Ska, Reggae, Rocksetady and what came to be Dancehall than anything clearly Jamaican in Afram music.
 

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Dude actually said Domincan income in the USA is higher than blacks.:laff:
:laff::laff::laff: what?! Them dudes gassed off some bodegas (which are now being taken over by Arabs):laff:damn near every black group in America has a higher income than Dominicans and that's a fact

Only things Dr has going for it is being a big fish in a small pond , bytches and baseball:laff:
 

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I completely ignore them, some of them just want a reaction. Like who cares about Dominicans like that lets be real?
exactly when your talking to African Americans your talking to a culture that went from being slaves to among the most famous influential people on the planet. A'lot of these cultures that diss us cant say the same
 

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Sorry, if you're Jamaican that's cool:salute: but yall ain't pioneer HipHop:russell:There are more traceable Afram influences in Ska, Reggae, Rocksetady and what came to be Dancehall than anything clearly Jamaican in Afram music.

Just finishing up with work and I see the fukkery hasn't stopped lol. Again, I'm all for productive discourse, but let's chill with all the disrespect and name calling. You don't see me coming at ya'll sideways so you can miss me with the africans were talking slick in 2012 mess.

but back to your point.. Hip hop was more or less invented/founded by DJ Kool Herc. DJ Kool Herc was born in Jamaica and is not an African-American per the definition used in this thread. So in essence, hip hop was invented by a Jamaican. Do you agree with this or no? If not, why?
 

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Just finishing up with work and I see the fukkery hasn't stopped lol. Again, I'm all for productive discourse, but let's chill with all the disrespect and name calling. You don't see me coming at ya'll sideways so you can miss me with the africans were talking slick in 2012 mess.

but back to your point.. Hip hop was more or less invented/founded by DJ Kool Herc. DJ Kool Herc was born in Jamaica and is not an African-American per the definition used in this thread. So in essence, hip hop was invented by a Jamaican. Do you agree with this or no? If not, why?
Stop breh ,we gone through this before. Just search IllmaticDelta's posts
 

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Just finishing up with work and I see the fukkery hasn't stopped lol. Again, I'm all for productive discourse, but let's chill with all the disrespect and name calling. You don't see me coming at ya'll sideways so you can miss me with the africans were talking slick in 2012 mess.

but back to your point.. Hip hop was more or less invented/founded by DJ Kool Herc. DJ Kool Herc was born in Jamaica and is not an African-American per the definition used in this thread. So in essence, hip hop was invented by a Jamaican. Do you agree with this or no? If not, why?

:mindblown:

Hip hop was a community driven/created artform
there wasnt no one person that came about and said "let there be light" and hip hop was created
Its influences were almost completely AA
This is the reason alotta 70's disco djs are :mindblown: when it comes to kool herc and hip hops creation
 

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Stop breh ,we gone through this before. Just search IllmaticDelta's posts
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Hip hop was a community driven/created artform
there wasnt no one person that came about and said "let there be light" and hip hop was created
Its influences were almost completely AA
This is the reason alotta 70's disco djs are :mindblown: when it comes to kool herc and hip hops creation


Again, I'm not coming at anybody. I thought this was more or less common knowledge. If I'm wrong, please show me my error and cite a source. But let's not go to ad hominem attacks. And my fault if it was already mentioned, I had to knock out some work and just hopped back into the convo.
 

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Just finishing up with work and I see the fukkery hasn't stopped lol. Again, I'm all for productive discourse, but let's chill with all the disrespect and name calling. You don't see me coming at ya'll sideways so you can miss me with the africans were talking slick in 2012 mess.

I wasn't on this board back then but I've seen the threads and it's part of the reason for what you sometimes see going down now on this board



but back to your point.. Hip hop was more or less invented/founded by DJ Kool Herc.

long story short, he didn't invent anything. What he did bring to the table had nothing to do with Jamaica..it had more to do with American disco. See thread


http://www.thecoli.com/threads/fact...-bronx-they-was-pimps-down-south.62884/page-2

DJ Kool Herc was born in Jamaica and is not an African-American per the definition used in this thread.

He's not ethnically AfroAmerican



So in essence, hip hop was invented by a Jamaican. Do you agree with this or no? If not, why?

Nope...see thread above and..just to repost





1970's HipHop culture grew out of Afram Funk/Disco/Soul scene








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Another early pioneer who has been forgotten that predated Herc in the Bronx scene.

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Dj Disco King Mario

He was actually from Bronx scene and one of the founder/leaders of the Black Spades.




REMEMBER DISCO KING MARIO


This Saturday [August 18th 2001] Hip Hop's pioneers will be coming out in full force to pay tribute to the memory of one of its legendary DJs who passed away a few years back-Disco King Mario. We often hear about the achievements of people like Bambaataa, Kool Herc and Grandmaster Flash, but very little is said about some of the other pioneers who also laid down much of the foundation we now call Hip Hop. Cats like Pete DJ Jones, Grand Wizard Theodore, the late DJ Flowers and of course Mario were key architects.

Disco King Mario never released no records. He didn't produce no major rap stars. I'm not even sure if he ever toured around the world once Hip Hop became known world wide. However, for those of us who were around back in the beginning days of the 70s, Disco King Mario who lived upstairs from my man DJ Paradise of X-Clan over in the Bronxdale Housing projects, was a household name. He was known for throwing some of Hip Hop's best jams and keeping the party going. He was staple in early Hip Hop whose name and his crew Chuck Chuck City was mentioned on many of the early tapes. One of Mario's unwritten contributions was mentioned on many of the early tapes. One of Mario's unwritten contributions was how he gave
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Afrika Bambaattaa a helping hand. He used loan Bam his dj equipment. Later on Bam would face Mario in his first official DJ battle. Back in the early days it was Disco King Mario who was at the top of heap and the man to beat
Today its hard for people to understand the significance of the DJ. When Hip Hop first began it wasn't the rapper who was in charge. It was the DJ. It was the DJ came to symbolized the African drummer. It was the DJ who kept the pace and set the tone. It was the DJ who rocked the crowd and was the supreme personality who garnered the spot light. Everyone else including the rappers were secondary. Cats from all over came to your party based upon who was deejaying. Hence when Disco King Mario's name was mentioned cats came from all over because he was the man. He was the type of cat who simply had that magic and command of the crowd. Sadly he passed away before his time, unknown to many of today's bling bling artists who benefit from the culture he helped laid down.

If you happen to be in New York, you may see a flyer being circulated around that is reminiscent of the old school flyers from back in the days. 'By Popular demand DJ Cool Clyde, Lightnin Lance, The Nasty Cuzins, Quiet Az Kept Present their first annual Old School Reunion & Picnic'. It lets you know that the celebration for Disco King Mario is taking place Saturday August 18th at Rosedale 'Big Park' in the Bronx. The Big Park itself is legendary. When I was a kid living on Croes Avenue, we were absolutely forbidden to go across the street to the Big Park. That was because the Big Park was where many of many of the early Black Spades used to hang out. The Spades at that time were the largest and most notorious gang at that time. They eventually evolved to become The Mighty Zulu Nation. As for the Big Park, it eventually became the place where Disco King Mario would eventually throw many of his early gigs.


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And since your speaking on the culture of hip hop, where in the south did Graphite come from?
That's was from the North and originated in Philly by Aframs


What we now think of as "HipHop Graf" started in Philly in the late mid to late 1960's


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And where in the south did blending record ms on turntables and utilization of break beats originate from?

That's NYC Disco culture








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I've never met a southerner to make a claim to any of that.
You haven't? This is common knowledge by southern blacks that hiphop was a northern offshoot of southern practices.



Southern blacks had their own culture that was very influential as far as our food, jazz music etc but as far as Hip Hop culture as a whole? Nah
You realize that the aframs in the north brought their southern backgrounds with them?

Rapping? - easily found in the southern black oral traditions
Breakbeats? - is funk music which is also of southern roots
HipHop dance? - heavily rooted in Jazz dance which is rooted in the South..shyt like tap dancing and swing dance



http://www.thecoli.com/threads/stop-calling-my-culture-hip-hop.389541/page-11#post-17138280
 
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