Why is it so hard for the Democratic Party to take accountability?

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These agents really think they can Jedi Mind Trick us into absolving the people actually in power.

Let's see how well that holds up after 4 years of this shyt.
Ah yes, you just came up with the groundbreaking, never-before-seen strategy of… criticizing Republicans! Wow, what a political genius! Because surely, nobody has ever thought to blame the GOP before. Another one who never heard of being able to walk and chew gum at the same time
 
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The Squad did it but then the weaker ones got done in by AIPAC. They fukked up not opposing Dem leadership and hoping they were seen as the next wave instead of a threat.
I was just talking about that, the squad and Bernie need to divest from the party. They need to see the forest for the trees and realize they aren’t leaving the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party has left them.

They should also do it now. Doing it during the election cycle is haphazard and selfish. Doing it now gives them time to get prepared for 2028. I don’t think they can get someone elected as President, but I do think they could force whoever the democratic nominee is to take on progressive stances on policies to get their endorsement.
 

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That is a lot harder said than done but I also think it’s gonna lead to the parties splitting. A progressive party can exist running against donor money if they outright reject that money and make it an issue. A regular Democrat can’t do that because the party as a whole relies on that money.

Same for the Tech bros and MAGA were seeing the infighting starting there too with Bannon out here openly shyt talking Musk.

Populist movements and mainstream parties don’t mix naturally and always split eventually.
It should

Crazy dems have corporate backing and still ask for donations
 

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Jamal Bowman getting taken out by AIPAC is one of the reasons America is broken. They blackballed him as a Democrat but he should still have a career there is just no party for him to go to.

I still think Bernie is not seeing the forest for the trees and should start his own political party to the left of the democrats. Working outside of the Pelosi/Schumer dynamic might revitalize the left and give people alternatives to start pushing the Overton window to become more progressive.
The only reason I think he didn't got this route or not endorse Hillary/Biden is he isn't prepared to be a heel in anyway. A move like this would turn the press and Dem party against him for awhile and they would relentlessly shyt on him in the media. It's a hard row to hoe being hated by pretty much everybody. Trump was willing, Bernie was not.
 

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Why is it so hard for people to think critically just one level beyond "republicans bad"?
Because thinking critically requires effort, and a lot of people would rather stick to pre-packaged, feel-good narratives than confront uncomfortable truths. It’s easy to say Republicans bad and call it a day, it’s a simple, black-and-white take that requires zero nuance or self-reflection. It lets people feel intellectually superior without having to question why the democratic party, the one that was supposed to stop them, keeps failing so badly.

Actually thinking one level deeper means asking:
  • Why do Democrats keep losing despite outspending Republicans?
  • Why did millions of voters sit out this election?
  • Why hasn’t “Republicans bad” been enough to stop Trump after all these years?
But people don’t want to wrestle with those questions because it forces them to acknowledge that the dems aren’t just helpless victims, they’re active participants in perpetuating a broken system. It’s easier to just scream vote harder! and blame everyone except the people who ran a terrible campaign.
 

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The only reason I think he didn't got this route or not endorse Hillary/Biden is he isn't prepared to be a heel in anyway. A move like this would turn the press and Dem party against him for awhile and they would relentlessly shyt on him in the media. It's a hard row to hoe being hated by pretty much everybody. Trump was willing, Bernie was not.
Right now is the time to do it. Trump is out there being a monster. Bernie could become the face of the opposition and get a lot of momentum behind the new party.
 

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I was just talking about that, the squad and Bernie need to divest from the party. They need to see the forest for the trees and realize they aren’t leaving the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party has left them.

They should also do it now. Doing it during the election cycle is haphazard and selfish. Doing it now gives them time to get prepared for 2028. I don’t think they can get someone elected as President, but I do think they could force whoever the democratic nominee is to take on progressive stances on policies to get their endorsement.
See my next post. They aren't prepared to be the most hated. I think Rashida Tlaib would be down for it, but not all by herself. AOC and Omar I don't think are willing like Bernie.
 

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Why is it so hard for people to think critically just one level beyond "republicans bad"?
Because thinking critically requires effort, and a lot of people would rather stick to pre-packaged, feel-good narratives than confront uncomfortable truths. It’s easy to say Republicans bad and call it a day, it’s a simple, black-and-white take that requires zero nuance or self-reflection. It lets people feel intellectually superior without having to question why the democratic party, the one that was supposed to stop them, keeps failing so badly.

Actually thinking one level deeper means asking:
  • Why do Democrats keep losing despite outspending Republicans?
  • Why did millions of voters sit out this election?
  • Why hasn’t “Republicans bad” been enough to stop Trump after all these years?
But people don’t want to wrestle with those questions because it forces them to acknowledge that the dems aren’t just helpless victims, they’re active participants in perpetuating a broken system. It’s easier to just scream vote harder! and blame everyone except the people who ran a terrible campaign.
For me it’s timing this is a fair conversation now but during election season this is sabotage. Party unity in the big tent party is always a challenge but honestly right now something has got to give.

The Democrats have no forward motion and are compromised.

 

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All this talk and it’s all cause of citizen United. If you understand what that is, then you understand why America is broken

Jamal Bowman getting taken out by AIPAC is one of the reasons America is broken. They blackballed him as a Democrat but he should still have a career there is just no party for him to go to.

I still think Bernie is not seeing the forest for the trees and should start his own political party to the left of the democrats. Working outside of the Pelosi/Schumer dynamic might revitalize the left and give people alternatives to start pushing the Overton window to become more progressive.
This is truly sad, for every 20 idiots who just read the title, jumped to the last page to call me a trump supporter for asking why their blue masters failed, i get like one of these posts from someone with a semblance of critical thinking ability. I agree, Bernie trying to assimilate into the system instead of breaking away was a big misstep. There is no future for real progressivism inside the Pelosi/Schumer corporate machine. Every time progressives try to "work within the system," the system kneecaps them and forces them into submission. A real left has to be built outside of it, otherwise the cycle will just repeat ad infinitum. A party has to be built with the identity of not taking corporate money and representing the working class
 

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See my next post. They aren't prepared to be the most hated. I think Rashida Tlaib would be down for it, but not all by herself. AOC and Omar I don't think are willing like Bernie.
Then I don’t know they need some masculine members because it’s not like they are liked, at best they are tolerated….. barely
 

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Yeah, they had a brief window to make shyt happened and decided not to go all out as not to piss off the party.

It’s sad, cause it’s to the point I think Pelosi picks a position that is opposite of their’s by default and then runs to the donors for donations and stock tips.

If ever there was a time to do it, it would be now. Trump is gonna steal the headlines, and the party has no power so it’s not sabotage for them to do their own thing.
 

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It’s sad, cause it’s to the point I think Pelosi picks a position that is opposite of their’s by default and then runs to the donors for donations and stock tips.
They should have not confirmed her and asked for some type of legislative promises for their confirmation votes. After they did confirm her she flipped on them and got some of them out the paint. I actually have sympathy as being a heel is not an easy road. But still it's what was necessary and AOC especially painted herself as such when she was running for office. Oh well . . . lol
 

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They should have not confirmed her and asked for some type of legislative promises for their confirmation votes. After they did confirm her she flipped on them and got some of them out the paint. I actually have sympathy as being a heel is not an easy road. But still it's what was necessary and AOC especially painted herself as such when she was running for office. Oh well . . . lol
It’s too late now, but they should realize that the mainstream dems don’t fukk with them and move accordingly. Like when they and Bernie was supporting Biden to not drop out, I think that made Pelosi want to get him out of the paint even more. That is how much she hates all of them.
 
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