Why in the FUKK does modern R&B suck ASS!!??

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

Third it’s both too many outlets and too few outlets. Let me explain. Everyone has a record label, and everyone is trying to get paid. So there is an overload of trash out there because the filtering process is nonexistent. Used to be you would put a lot of effort and resources behind an artist because there were significant costs to getting them pushed and getting the product out to the market and in stores. So this artist had to have talent, the music had to be good, etc. Now, they just throw that shyt up on streaming. Cost of entry is damn near non-existent. Now, the too few outlets part. Like 2 companies own all the radio stations. So they set up their playlist and they pumping the same bullshyt nation wide. That shyt wasn’t legal till a law changed in the mid 90s. Regional hits that gain momentum is dead. I remember growing up you could tune in to some local stations and they would play entire albums, if a track stood out requests would pile up and the song would take off. It was in a stations best interest to find out what the public actually liked and keep playing it. Memphis soul was different from Philly soul which was different from Motown, etc…. Now everyone sounds like generic trash.

I hate that I’ve become that old person who shyts on new stuff, but legit feel like this stuff is bad. It has no artistic or musical value to it. I shouldn’t have to work in order to find good music like some people here suggest. It should find its way to the top naturally.

The entire organic process that cultivated popular Black music for decades has completely disappeared and cannot be replicated by Spotify, YouTube, Instagram and Tik Tok.

Our overall relationship with Black music, which was once an extension of our connection to the Creator, has been irrevocably altered.

At one point, whether you were in a Black household in Hollis, Queens or Durham, North Carolina, you could expect to see a piano in the parlor or living room.

And dad (when we use to have dads in our households..) may have had his drums or guitar and amp in the basement, attic or garage (see Joe Jackson for further reference).

There was a time when it seemed like almost every mom and teacher in the community could play the piano. And Mrs. Watkins could switch from "Wade In The Water" to some Boogie Woogie blues with a quickness.

Black high schools and community centers used to have talent shows, battle of the bands regularly.

The Black church was the center of all music education, creation and celebration.

None of this can be achieved through OnlyFans accounts and uploads on YouTube, which is why very few Black artists (of any genre) scale to popularity today like they did 1940s - 1990s.

 

[NinoBrown]

Lack of musicianship behind the keys and artists aren't talented...

 

[Yaboysix]

Ahh yes; the bi-weekly "mUsIc wAs bEtTeR iN mY dAy!!!" TLR circlejerk. Lemme not miss out on this one.

OP is probably trolling, knowing these threads get numbers.



You like your male RnB singers to look more muscular, huh?





None of this makes sense. If this paragraph is about the song you quoted, you are absolutely wrong.

808s is a drum machine, there are kicks and high-hats all throughout the song, and it 100% has TR-808 (or a derivative of) programmed drums in it.

Y'all don't even know what your mad at anymore.

well….I’m saying…

 

[Depreciating Asset]

Feel you

Mainly stick with 90s, early to mid 00s records...

Besides that, Ari Lenox is one of the few newer rnb artist I fuc with ...but she's more so neo soul







Some gems out there tho

Lot of Badu influence there. Cool that the next generation is keeping the energy going

 

[Dog Based Gremlin]

Cats in here arguing about R&Simp music

 

[breakfuss]

Some really fire posts in here. Nice to see others share the same love for a beleaguered genre. I don't want to shyt on all r&b because I know there's people still putting out good music. But unlike before where it felt like there wasn't enough time to enjoy it all, classic r&b records now seem few and far between. I'm sure some of it has to do with discoverability on streaming services. If there's one criticism I agree with here it's that the production and musicality took a hit. It's a homogenized mess. There's space for the lo-fi, minimalist shyt and I fukk with some of it but it's strange that's what gets the most push.

Appreciate all the folks posting recommendations.

 

[Grand Conde]

Ray BLK is dope.

 

[Rozay Oro]

R&B is in a much better place than it was 5-6 years ago.

The 'PBR&B' era when PartyNextDoor, Bryson Tiller and P&B Rock were at their height was fukking insufferable.

Bryson is dope tf

 

[breakfuss]

Bryson is dope tf

Oh most def, Bryson is nice. One of the newer cats carrying the torch. Ironically he samples a lot of 90s R&B lmao .

 

[Rozay Oro]

That Eric Bellinger song was terrible yet he wrote Fine China which is fire. Thread got me bumpin jodeci, tevin campbell, Johnny Gill, dvsn, Bryson tiller and Brent Faiyaz to clean my ears lol.

 

[Dynamite James]

I posted 2 people who have great natural voices, no studio magic. Catchy songs, good structure, runs, no rap singing, good enough lyrics etc.

If you want jazz, just say that.

Pure R&B is going to always be slower to mid-tempo ballads. It was way too fast for too long and that ruined it. Ironically it took a rapper like Drake to make super slow songs cool again

This shyt is boring breh. Acoustic is not the r&b we grew up with. 60s,70s,80,90, even early 00s we saw change in production style but the heart was always there. This new shyt is soulless just like most people today

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

no one want to do vocal training or take singing classes

even mj did vocal training and did singing classes

mfers lazy man

people stopped going to church, the church is where you found people that sang

everyone wants to ride this thotrnb and traprnb wave

 

[Dynamite James]

no one want to do vocal training or take singing classes

even mj did vocal training and did singing classes

mfers lazy man

people stopped going to church, the church is where you found people that sang

everyone wants to ride this thotrnb and traprnb wave

main issues. These soulless Brehs posting “soulless” R&b music . Even when hip hop was introduced to r&b in the beginning it still had soul. It wasn’t even just about the singer. A lot of the producer and songwriters started off in church

 

[Wild self]

no one want to do vocal training or take singing classes

even mj did vocal training and did singing classes

mfers lazy man

people stopped going to church, the church is where you found people that sang

everyone wants to ride this thotrnb and traprnb wave

It all stemmed from the ratchet Strip club culture

 

[breakfuss]

Confessions was the second best-selling album of the 2000s lol. 15 million copies . Jesus, what in the living hell happened? Clearly there's an audience hungry for this type of music.