Why don't more rappers make music the average guy can relate to?

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Ab Soul does this amazingly. Budden as well of course.

Underground rappers don't count. When Buddens was on Def Jam that nikka was only interested in club singles. Most nikkas are like that, when they're no longer on a major that's when they want to make introspective singles and shyt.
 

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Who the fukk could relate to Eminem? :heh:
Besides his 2-3 songs about his daughter he's probably the least "relateable" rapper out. Dude raps about raping broads, killing his mother, being the most famous redneck, murdering the mother of his daughter, murdering his close friends, catching VDs from the biggest pop stars, hiphop wars, being retarded and the list is long.

His moste relateable album is probably the one that sold the least 1000 copies? Infinite? And 1 of 30 songs or something is like the Rihanna song, something cats can relate to a bit.


Broke white people. Not everything he said was said for shock value. When he wasn't rapping in a clear alter ego, a lot of that shyt had to do with his personal issues. It seems like you chose to ignore a huge chunk of Em's career.
 

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Broke white people. Not everything he said was said for shock value. When he wasn't rapping in a clear alter ego, a lot of that shyt had to do with his personal issues. It seems like you chose to ignore a huge chunk of Em's career.

Mention the songs instead. Anything on his 2 first albums?
Eminem Show? Encore? I mean he has real songs like White America and Sing for the moment but who the fukk can relate to those? Maybe the first verse on Sing for moment.
Like I said he has 2 songs on every album like most rappers.
 

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Mention the songs instead. Anything on his 2 first albums?
Eminem Show? Encore? I mean he has real songs like White America and Sing for the moment but who the fukk can relate to those? Maybe the first verse on Sing for moment.
Like I said he has 2 songs on every album like most rappers.
Rock Bottom? he's talking about being fed up with working minimum wage, having no money to feed/clothe his daughter, having flossy no talent rappers blow up instead of him etc. no super crazy mum raping drug addled serial killer tales

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdXdsF08SWQ"]Eminem- Rock Bottom - YouTube[/ame]
 

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You're wrong. When "I Wish" came out it was not an oddity because right after that song went off the radio something like "Back in the days" by Ahmad or "Everyday People" by Arrested Development or "Keep Ya Head Up" by Pac would come on after it. It was more diverse or variety on the airwaves back then. My point is why is only club music or fictional music being played on the airwaves? When did we as a ppl only accept that kind of music from mainstream radio?

:what: it's always been like that.

Believe it or not your opinion is the minority.

Most people like to listen to music that make them feel good.

You think the average radio listener want to hear a constant barrage of songs about bring broke, down on luck and other bullshyt?
 

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:what: it's always been like that.
Believe it or not your opinion is the minority.

Most people like to listen to music that make them feel good.

You think the average radio listener want to hear a constant barrage of songs about bring broke, down on luck and other bullshyt?

How has it always been like that when the songs you quoted in my post were all hits? "Hail Mary" by Pac was a hit and so was "So Many Tears" and neither song made me feel good.
 

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How has it always been like that when the songs you quoted in my post were all hits? "Hail Mary" by Pac was a hit and so was "So Many Tears" and neither song made me feel good.

For every song like that you can name 10 hits that were in constant rotation that was about balling, living the life etc.
 

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Rap is monotonous and no diversity. Everybody wanna be the dude that has money and the dude ur girl wants to sex. I limited rap subjects cuz they are not good rappers. They are selliuts best at closing business deals. Not real sh1t. Whoever said it was always like that is an idiot. Go listen to older music dumb ass. Its today where its ridicuokus. Not back then. Not before shiny suit era. Even after it was.t nearly as bad as today. And don't say its what the kids want cuz the kids don't know what they want and the labels know this. They just need to be wrapped in something shiny.
 

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For every song like that you can name 10 hits that were in constant rotation that was about balling, living the life etc.

List the number of hits that was about balling from 84-96. That balling bling bling shyt didn't take over until Pac died. That's when the shiny suit era and the no limit-cash money image changed shyt for the worse.
 

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You're wrong. When "I Wish" came out it was not an oddity because right after that song went off the radio something like "Back in the days" by Ahmad or "Everyday People" by Arrested Development or "Keep Ya Head Up" by Pac would come on after it. It was more diverse or variety on the airwaves back then. My point is why is only club music or fictional music being played on the airwaves? When did we as a ppl only accept that kind of music from mainstream radio?

Yeah... you got an interesting memory there.

Sure, I will not contend with you that the radio then was more diverse musically than it is today, fair enough.

But this belief that "average guy rap" was poppin' back in the day, like to a point everybody just loved it and those were the biggest hits? Nah bruh. The same summer "I Wish" was a hit- so were songs like "One More Chance" (about a fat-ass nikka who can dress, gets money, and stays with all types of good lookin' women), "Sugar Hill" (a nikka not being broke, but making money and looking forward to makin' a lot more to do all kinds of outlandishly lavish shyt), "I Got 5 On It" (two nikkas who love puttin' their money together and smokin' weed). Face it man, people like whatever entertains 'em, and whatever sounds good to them. Same for the songs you mentioned. If "I Wish", "Back In The Days", etc. didn't have a catchy hook or a nice track, radio nor the record-buying public wouldn't have cared about if it was "real shyt" or not. Don't tell me you think those records got lots of play because of the subject matter alone.

shyt, even Pac (the one you use as an example of making "real shyt" that the average guy (aka, YOU) can relate to) knew there was a formula to making hits. Ain't he the one who told Biggie "don't rap for the nikkas. Rap for the bytches, cause the bytches buy your album, and nikkas want what the bytches want"?
 
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