Why doesn't God reveal himself to those who don't believe? (3 min.VID)

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And? So what? We are limited by our lack of knowledge and technology today, but who knows what people will know a thousand years from now? You're looking at it like we've reached the pinnacle of scientific knowledge. I don't think we have.

I am not Science vs Religion, I belive Science and Religion have the same goal: desribing REALITY

Your faith in future science is very much like dogma. You may be right, so might the people who think Jesus is coming back. Even so, imaginary future science is not science.
 

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Where do you get this from? What religion are you part of?

I was Baptised several years ago at a Holiness Church. I really dig Zen and Hinduism.

What I wrote about G-d's mentality was gleaned through thought experiment.

The nuclear bomb started with thought experiment (Einstein) so don't poo poo it as a Scientific tool.
 

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Look around...and the universe.

You will see God.
I refuse to accept something came out of nothing.
 

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I am not Science vs Religion, I belive Science and Religion have the same goal: desribing REALITY

Your faith in future science is very much like dogma. You may be right, so might the people who think Jesus is coming back. Even so, imaginary future science is not science.

It's not a dogma or faith, it's reality. It's a reasonable expectation based on previous events. Mankind has always sought knowledge, not to mention monetary and social incentives to be the first to truly prove some of these things. Sure, the people who believe in Jesus' return might be right, but there's no justification that they are. Any religious ideology might be right, but that doesn't make it likely that it is. Again, I think it's reasonable to look at the progression of the human race over time .... why on Earth would you believe that it's likely that we'll stop learning all of a sudden. Because you happen to live during this time, and think we've reached as much as we can know? How arrogant is that? Who's really clinging to dogma here?
 

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It's not a dogma or faith, it's reality. It's a reasonable expectation based on previous events. Mankind has always sought knowledge, not to mention monetary and social incentives to be the first to truly prove some of these things. Sure, the people who believe in Jesus' return might be right, but there's no justification that they are. Any religious ideology might be right, but that doesn't make it likely that it is. Again, I think it's reasonable to look at the progression of the human race over time .... why on Earth would you believe that it's likely that we'll stop learning all of a sudden. Because you happen to live during this time, and think we've reached as much as we can know? How arrogant is that? Who's really clinging to dogma here?

To me all of this is Science. People in Churches weild actual spiritual power and people in labs weild mental power. Knowledge actuall work in the opposite direction. The ultimate knowledge is already behind us. Worms and fish knew it before Humans existed. Our path is the GENERATION of "knowledge". Quantum physics suggests that the observer changes the observed. Taken to the ultimate end that concept includes scientists generating phenomena by the act of looking for it. I am suggesting the they will find smaller and smaller particles as long as they look... does the existence of anti quarks or 11 spatial dimensions
 

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have any observable effect in the actual world? Ultimately we will "know it all" which equals realizing that we already knew it all from the beginning. We'll travel the stars and live on forever as a species but that will connect directly to the spiritual dimension of existence.
 

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Who ever said that the Big Bang was a binary event and everything started there? Yes, thats the extent of our current human knowledge. However, we know energy is neither created nor destroyed therefore it has always been there. Time is a man made concept. The universe has no time. Who's to say the universe ever really started? Maybe it was always there. Stating God created it is because we don't fully understand it yet is a cop out due to lack of human knowledge.
 

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have any observable effect in the actual world? Ultimately we will "know it all" which equals realizing that we already knew it all from the beginning. We'll travel the stars and live on forever as a species but that will connect directly to the spiritual dimension of existence.
the ancients knew this
 

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god either doesn't exist...

or maybe that's not the purpose of God.

or maybe it's like what I do with my sons . one can be struggling with something to the point of crying like a lil punk... and I will not help.. they figure it out eventually and are stronger and more knowledgeable in the end. I did my part by creating them and providing slight guidance.
 
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