Why doesn't God reveal himself to those who don't believe? (3 min.VID)

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Breh, you mad huh? I ask because YOU WHO BELIEVES IT should be able to answer those questions I posed. Why didnt you? You just skipped over it because it poked holes in whatever weak argument you were supporting. If it didnt, why didnt you answer it?

I dont know who Mr. Pinker is and quite frankly do not care. I didnt say he was intelligent or stupid. What I did was read the link you provided, and asked questions on it. Did you answer them? Nope. Did you even address them? Nope. You just skipped over them because it poked holes in your argument. If it didnt, you would have responded as you are now. So again....

I just don't have hours to waste educating morons on the internet.

 

[Everythingg]

Except I did. You're the one deflecting when asked to concede a point about science ignoring OBEs.

Do you want me to highlight what you stated, and then ask you to provide the wiki that you claimed stated what you did? I can if you want, or you can run out the thread whining as you did earlier? Either way is cool wit me

Okay, well you kinda just went back on what you just said. You did just say everything outside of some New Testament texts were actual happenings/non-fiction. So which is it? Do you not think it's contradictory to say the bible is factual when we don't know if its content is metaphor?

Non fiction means it didnt happen does it not? So what did I go back on? A non fiction account can still be metaphorical right?

And Im not saying Genesis is non fiction, Im saying I dont know nor do I care. What I do, do for myself, is take the lesson from the story. Thats what matters. Eventually, we'll know the truth of all things I say. And it wont come from the hands of men since they are corrupt. The world is proof of it.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

If you care to watch @King-Over-Kingz

http://www.ted.com/talks/steven_pinker_on_the_myth_of_violence.html

 

[Everythingg]

You stated that the world now is worse off than any other time in history. Thats not the case. The world is literally better off now than at any point in time of human history. You're argument holds no weight. You don't know history. You exaggerate and move goal posts. You can't clearly argue your point because your point is invalid. You just can't seem to grasp that.

No I never stated that its the worse its been. You act as if Im saying theres nothing positive with this world. Absolutely not. You're acting as if Im saying that the world is 100% evil with no sight of good. Absolutely not. You're acting as if Im saying science is 100% evil with no sight of good. Absolutely not. What Im speaking on is in this post:

Ok if Im "trolling" and need to "learn some history" please tell, is imperialism happening in the world today?

You'll concede the wealth gap but then talk about iphones? Do you think that people would actually support a system that just ends up increasing the wealth gap if they knew that? And sure they're not standing in large food lines YET, but that debt aint just gonna keep increasing forever with no payback. So that will be on your children's (or children's children etc...) head whenever it does. Thats IF it isnt on your head.

Blacks have power? The same blacks that get beat in the street like they're pets? That isnt to laugh at the situation, but thats what it is. It doesnt matter about the gains they've made when we're talking about a wealth gap/debt. Both will just keep increasing if we just keep continuing with the status quo.
"Africa's problems are bad, but they arent lets kidnap entire tribes and sell them to slavery bad"




First, please dont use that rhetoric as if that was the main reason slavery happened. Second, it is that bad in some places. There are places where rebels/mercenaries/gov'ts etc.... are running thru villages raping and pillaging. So what are you talking about? Thats without mentioning the outside influence that rapes the continent as well.

The crusades is the darkest time in history? How many people died in that?

You didnt address anything in this. And then you want to come and throw names around and ridicule when I didnt do such. I answered yours and soft blake griffins posts in full and yall just come back with insults and ridicules. I mean I aint tripping Just calling it how it is. And how it is is that you ignored the whole post as expected. Theres nothing about this post that is illogical. If there is, you could have easily explained it out. Again, instead of doing that you completely ignored it. But as I said (again) it was expected.

 

[NoMayo15]

Either there is a God or the fukking Aliens created us. I refuse believe everything happened from just some natural way by accident and chance.

This is just a false dichotomy wrapped in an argument from ignorance. Why is it such a scary thought that there was no planned intent behind life and the universe to you? I'd agree that it's remarkable, but why can't you believe it to be at least possible?

How the fukk can we prove a physical God when we don't know what we looking for? With what technology and equipment could we even begin to start a scientific experiment? A Universe as big as what we define it as, we rely on our Science as the pedestal for everything to make sense...There's things that we don't know that we don't know.

I don't know how we can detect a god. I'm sure people thousands of years ago couldn't fathom some of the stuff we're discovering today. My position is it is better to believe in thing that are true or most likely to be true, and science is the best method to determine what's true. If I had to bet, I'd say aliens are more likely since we don't even know if there is such a thing as a supernatural realm for a god to reside in.

Most people believe in God out of fear of death and what would happen to them when they die. Did men create The Bible to control people? Is there physical evidence found to support the events in The Bible... so many questions?

At least you're asking questions rather than accepting theology at face value. I don't know man, I don't have the answers.

 

[Everythingg]

Ad hominem
(of an argument or reaction) arising from or appealing to the emotions and not reason or logic.

Again, I dont care about your insults. This is the net. I want to build rep in real life so I can get my ideas and thoughts out. But I guess that can start with the net if I really think about it lol. Nonetheless you ignored my post (again) to throw more name calling in (again). All you're doing is making a fool of yourself. If you're not just stay on topic. You dont have to respond right then and there. You have plenty of time to respond to whatever claim I make. Tmonster taught me that when I first came to this forum.

 

[ill]

No I never stated that its the worse its been. You act as if Im saying theres nothing positive with this world. Absolutely not. You're acting as if Im saying that the world is 100% evil with no sight of good. Absolutely not. You're acting as if Im saying science is 100% evil with no sight of good. Absolutely not. What Im speaking on is in this post:


You didnt address anything in this. And then you want to come and throw names around and ridicule when I didnt do such. I answered yours and soft blake griffins posts in full and yall just come back with insults and ridicules. I mean I aint tripping Just calling it how it is. And how it is is that you ignored the whole post as expected. Theres nothing about this post that is illogical. If there is, you could have easily explained it out. Again, instead of doing that you completely ignored it. But as I said (again) it was expected.

I pointed out the ridiculous accusations of your post multiple times. If you can't comprehend logic and facts then I can't help you. You are trying to say that blacks are worse off now than they were lets say 70 years ago? When they were literally owned by white man? Really? Blacks have more power, rights, and money in the US than any other time in our history. The level of slavery today in the world is tremendously less than in the past. You really think slavery is worse today than it was say 200 years ago? Really? Just really?!?!? It baffles my mind how you could possibly think this shyt.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Ad hominem
(of an argument or reaction) arising from or appealing to the emotions and not reason or logic.

Again, I dont care about your insults. This is the net. I want to build rep in real life so I can get my ideas and thoughts out. But I guess that can start with the net if I really think about it lol. Nonetheless you ignored my post (again) to throw more name calling in (again). All you're doing is making a fool of yourself. If you're not just stay on topic. You dont have to respond right then and there. You have plenty of time to respond to whatever claim I make. Tmonster taught me that when I first came to this forum.

I provided you a link to Steven Pinker's TED talk. I hope some of his ideas resonate with you, he spent years researching the subject and also wrote a book on it. I can assure you he has an insane amount of evidence and sources to back up his statements. I have time to respond to it, but what is the point? You're just going to reply with more bullshyt.

 

[Everythingg]

If you care to watch @King-Over-Kingz

http://www.ted.com/talks/steven_pinker_on_the_myth_of_violence.html

So after reading the link you provided (and I answered) you now want me to watch a 20 minute video?!?

And you didnt even respond to my questions about the link you provided?? Is this how a debate works? You say something ( and provide support for why you feel that way as you're supposed to). I question it and you ignore the questions I pose in regards to what you presented and point me to somewhere else? How is that keeping it 100?

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

So after reading the link you provided (and I answered) you now want me to watch a 20 minute video?!?

And you didnt even respond to my questions about the link you provided?? Is this how a debate works? You say something ( and provide support for why you feel that way as you're supposed to). I question it and you ignore the questions I pose in regards to what you presented and point me to somewhere else? How is that keeping it 100? :hovscust:

alright dude. good luck with your life, you'll be joining my ignore list

 

[ill]

This is just a false dichotomy wrapped in an argument from ignorance. Why is it such a scary thought that there was no planned intent behind life and the universe to you? I'd agree that it's remarkable, but why can't you believe it to be at least possible?



I don't know how we can detect a god. I'm sure people thousands of years ago couldn't fathom some of the stuff we're discovering today. My position is it is better to believe in thing that are true or most likely to be true, and science is the best method to determine what's true. If I had to bet, I'd say aliens are more likely since we don't even know if there is such a thing as a supernatural realm for a god to reside in.



At least you're asking questions rather than accepting theology at face value. I don't know man, I don't have the answers.

Aliens are about a million times more likely of an answer than a mystical creature created on paper.

 

[Everythingg]

I pointed out the ridiculous accusations of your post multiple times. If you can't comprehend logic and facts then I can't help you. You are trying to say that blacks are worse off now than they were lets say 70 years ago? When they were literally owned by white man? Really? Blacks have more power, rights, and money in the US than any other time in our history. The level of slavery today in the world is tremendously less than in the past. You really think slavery is worse today than it was say 200 years ago? Really? Just really?!?!? It baffles my mind how you could possibly think this shyt.

Breh, I already posted my reply once. Why would I answer your questions again? See heres the post for the third time of me posting it.

Ok if Im "trolling" and need to "learn some history" please tell, is imperialism happening in the world today?

You'll concede the wealth gap but then talk about iphones? Do you think that people would actually support a system that just ends up increasing the wealth gap if they knew that? And sure they're not standing in large food lines YET, but that debt aint just gonna keep increasing forever with no payback. So that will be on your children's (or children's children etc...) head whenever it does. Thats IF it isnt on your head.

Blacks have power? The same blacks that get beat in the street like they're pets? That isnt to laugh at the situation, but thats what it is. It doesnt matter about the gains they've made when we're talking about a wealth gap/debt. Both will just keep increasing if we just keep continuing with the status quo.
"Africa's problems are bad, but they arent lets kidnap entire tribes and sell them to slavery bad"




First, please dont use that rhetoric as if that was the main reason slavery happened. Second, it is that bad in some places. There are places where rebels/mercenaries/gov'ts etc.... are running thru villages raping and pillaging. So what are you talking about? Thats without mentioning the outside influence that rapes the continent as well.

The crusades is the darkest time in history? How many people died in that?

- Now where did I say blacks are worse off then they used to be?
- Where did I say slavery was better or worse than it used to be?

I didnt say these things. Now if you want to reply to this post above (so I dont have to type this out again) thats fine and I'll be fine with answering any inquiries you have as to why I said what I said. But you projecting statements onto me isnt being logical or fair, friend

 

[Everythingg]

alright dude. good luck with your life, you'll be joining my ignore list

Yea man. Display for everyone how you run and hide from your own statements. What you just said might be sig worthy in regards to how you ran around in circles in this thread

 

[Kaypain]

This is just a false dichotomy wrapped in an argument from ignorance. Why is it such a scary thought that there was no planned intent behind life and the universe to you? I'd agree that it's remarkable, but why can't you believe it to be at least possible?

Well from my conformed mind according to this World, forgive me for questioning it. It's just it's so perfectly designed and you're right, the Universe is remarkable. But how can we fully get something that's indefinitely expanded right now as we speak? (according to our Science)

I don't know how we can detect a god. I'm sure people thousands of years ago couldn't fathom some of the stuff we're discovering today. My position is it is better to believe in thing that are true or most likely to be true, and science is the best method to determine what's true. If I had to bet, I'd say aliens are more likely since we don't even know if there is such a thing as a supernatural realm for a god to reside in.

Exactly, we don't know. We can't even get a human on Mars right now. Yet people want to rule out all possibilities...

At least you're asking questions rather than accepting theology at face value. I don't know man, I don't have the answers.

Man it's all good, I was raised as a Christian. I've experienced things that don't make sense to me but I always have questions, questions is good.

 

[NoMayo15]

And Im not saying Genesis is non fiction, Im saying I dont know nor do I care. What I do, do for myself, is take the lesson from the story.

So what is the lesson of the Genesis account, in your opinion?