Why doesn't America believe in rehabilitating criminals, only punishing them?

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because prison was never meant for rehabilitation, it's a punishment.

That's actually not true. Prison was meant for rehabilitation up until around the 60's. That's when the US government started shifting it's policies from rehabilitation to over incarceration.

It's around the same time the majority of prisoners radically swapped from being majority white to majority black. There's a couple of books that touch on this topic, one of which being Why Americans Hate Welfare by Martin Gilens

In the 60's the face of poverty changed in the country as well to go from poor, white Appalachians to poor black welfare queens in order to sway public opinion against the welfare system and to stop lazy black women from destroying the country one black baby at a time.

I can go on and on about this subject, but it'll eventually turn into y'all dudes arguing about weaves, scandal, and calling every black woman on the planet a negro bed wench.
 

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On average a prison is worth $40k/year. So all these black men in prison are actually corporate commodities. They are being sold in a market...buying a selling of slaves (I mean prisoners) is done on the stock market today. Its the new slave trade :demonic:
 

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Most people locked up during hard time have a rap sheet longer than DMZ

This........A lot of people in Prison have been in there multiple times.......Plus some of them feel comfortable in there... I will never understand it....I did a week in Jail and was ready to kill myself.....mean while some of them were in there having the time of their life.......they are not victims of anything.
 

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Don't commit crimes and have a good lawyer on you.
 

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This........A lot of people in Prison have been in there multiple times.......Plus some of them feel comfortable in there... I will never understand it....I did a week in Jail and was ready to kill myself.....mean while some of them were in there having the time of their life.......they are not victims of anything.

Kinda like Beans and C Murda. They love prison more than their own kids.
 

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That's actually not true. Prison was meant for rehabilitation up until around the 60's. That's when the US government started shifting it's policies from rehabilitation to over incarceration.

It's around the same time the majority of prisoners radically swapped from being majority white to majority black. There's a couple of books that touch on this topic, one of which being Why Americans Hate Welfare by Martin Gilens

In the 60's the face of poverty changed in the country as well to go from poor, white Appalachians to poor black welfare queens in order to sway public opinion against the welfare system and to stop lazy black women from destroying the country one black baby at a time.

I can go on and on about this subject, but it'll eventually turn into y'all dudes arguing about weaves, scandal, and calling every black woman on the planet a negro bed wench.
History from medieval l times...Prison was meant to put bad people away. Not rehabilitate them.

it comes from the Latin word "prensio"...meaning to put away or take hold off.
 
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History from medical times...Prison was meant to put bad people away. Not rehabilitate them.

it comes from the Latin word "prensio"...meaning to put away or take hold off.

putting away bad people and rehabilitation are not mutually exclusive
 

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This........A lot of people in Prison have been in there multiple times.......Plus some of them feel comfortable in there... I will never understand it....I did a week in Jail and was ready to kill myself.....mean while some of them were in there having the time of their life.......they are not victims of anything.


This is true. Dudes in jail be in there having the time or their lives. Playing cards, gambling on basketball games on TV ect. No responsibilites, no kids, no child support to worry about, eat, sleep, shyt, gamble watch tv get $50 care packages from their babies moms. Talking on the phone on their phone cards they get.

Instead of taking the probation and doing right they just go to jail for a year, live it up and get back on the streets doing the same thing they were doing before. That's the judges job is to see who is a guy who needs help and not jail and who just need to go to jail for the whole time.


One guy said "everyone has a job and these guys that come to jail 6 months out of the year is to do time and make the state money" :manny:
 

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And most of the time if it's a non-violent crime. You get a couple chances to clean up your act.

Most people in prison are career criminals that are going back out to the streets and doing their thing.

Also they do have programs in prison to help these guys. counselors, drug meetings. If you get out on parole the state will pay for you to go to a Trade school and your officer will help you find a job when you get out, if they think you will do right. Most don't know anything but the street life so they go back to it.
 

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It is widely known that criminal rehabilitation is more cost effective.

Recidivism and repeat offenders are a greater cost to the state.
I guess we can agree to disagree because I flat out disagree with what you just said considering the fact that most crimes are committed by repeat offenders.
 

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I guess we can agree to disagree because I flat out disagree with what you just said considering the fact that most crimes are committed by repeat offenders.
That's the point though. Crime costs money. Repeat offenders cost the state a ton of money. If you could reduce the rates the US would save billions. If you invested half of that into rehabilitation programmes you'd see results. Other developed countries have switched their focus' and are seeing the benefits.
 
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