Here Comes the Pain
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Stevie made better music.
Even mj loved Stevie's music.
Even mj loved Stevie's music.
added with the specific secular elements that would birth soul
Stevie made better music.
Even mj loved Stevie's music.
imo
age may be a reason
as far as this board goes, Stevie has a closer connection to hip hop...sampling, and haven't worked with some artists over there. Kanye did the ray cover with jamie, but Stevie has more examples that come to mind.
you mentioned other guys getting more due and the 'genuis' label and I thought of guys like George Clinton, james Brown, troutman brothers, isaac hayes, etc . I think thats due to this being a hiphop board and the sampling that those artists music provided
added with the specific secular elements that would birth soul
imo
age may be a reason
as far as this board goes, Stevie has a closer connection to hip hop...sampling, and haven't worked with some artists over there. Kanye did the ray cover with jamie, but Stevie has more examples that come to mind.
you mentioned other guys getting more due and the 'genuis' label and I thought of guys like George Clinton, james Brown, troutman brothers, isaac hayes, etc . I think thats due to this being a hiphop board and the sampling that those artists music provided
He POPULARIZED the sound, there were others before him that had the same and similar sound, Ray even admitted he was influenced by Jesse Whitaker
Here's what you're not getting. Nothing is new under the sun but Ray Charles put his own twist on it and transcended it which later created soul music.
Just like Ray Charles turnt country music into something else better than what it was before.
Here’s what you’re not getting - He didn’t create soul music
The sound you hear now is because of Ray Charles not jesse whitaker. He took gospel and mixed with many of other things which became soul music. Jesse whitaker might of been doing some things with gospel but he didn't transcend it like Ray Charles did.
He POPULARIZED the sound, there were others before him that had the same and similar sound, Ray even admitted he was influenced by Jesse Whitaker
Agreed, my statement regarding Whitaker was that he was an influence on Ray’s sound. However, Ray did not invent soul music - there were other artist like Clyde McPhatter, Hank Ballard & Etta James who were also the architects of the sound, Ray popularized it.