Why does Shaq get a pass for playing with Kobe?

[Swagnificent]

I thought that performances, in the finals, matters more than anything else? Lebron doesn't get bonus points for his 2011 finals despite all the amazing playing he did in the Eastern Conference or the fact that he won a ring with great numbers in 2012?

The issue here isn't whether Kobe played well in the finals. The issue is whether he was a sidekick. A sidekick doesn't average 29/7/6 in the playoffs after he averages 28/6/5 in the regular season. That is what Kobe did at 22 years old on the 2001 Lakers.

Kobe's production in 2001 and 2002 was not the type of production of a sidekick. He averaged 29ppg in the playoffs while Shaq averaged 30ppg. He averaged 28ppg in the regular season while Shaq averaged 29ppg.

If Kobe is averaging one less PPG than Shaq in both the playoffs and regular season, that doesn't make him the sidekick. It makes him EQUAL.

 

[Taadow]

Lakers replaced Shaq with a soft euro and won multiple titles

No, the Lakers didn't win titles again until they got 3 players to do what Shaq used to do...and it took 8 years to do that.

Hell - you could've taken Kobe off that '09 team and they still might've beat the Magic.

 

[Taadow]

The issue here isn't whether Kobe played well in the finals. The issue is whether he was a sidekick. A sidekick doesn't average 29/7/6 in the playoffs after he averages 28/6/5 in the regular season. That is what Kobe did at 22 years old on the 2001 Lakers.

Kobe's production in 2001 and 2002 was not the type of production of a sidekick. He averaged 29ppg in the playoffs while Shaq averaged 30ppg. He averaged 28ppg in the regular season while Shaq averaged 29ppg.

If Kobe is averaging one less PPG than Shaq in both the playoffs and regular season, that doesn't make him the sidekick. It makes him EQUAL.

30 is not = to 29.

He was a sidechick.

 

[Methodical]

The go to argument for LeBron dikkheads is that Kobe had Shaq but, that narrative always leaves out the fact that Shaq HAD Kobe. As a teammate.

Jordan had Pippen.
Isiah had Dumars.
Bird had Mchale.
Hakeem had nobody really.

You know many fukking rings Jordan, Bird, Isiah, Hakeem and others would have had if they had Kobe as their teammate a nikka averaging 27-29 pts per game each season. nikka...imagine Jordan and Kobe in the Bulls backcourt

No, all them guys had supporting players as their number 2. Guys that were good but not top 10 players.

Shaq though....that fakkit had the 2nd greatest shooting guard to ever play as his teammate yet Shaq gets to get all the praise as if his ass would've won 3 rings with Joe Dumars or Vernon Maxwell as his number 2 Scottie Pippen wouldn't have helped either considering Kobe blazed the Kings, Spurs and Blazers multiple times for 30+ ppg a series and that was way beyond Scottie's capabilities.

nikkas love giving Shaq a pass. All his rings came from being teammates with the 2nd and 3rd best shooting guards in NBA history but no criticism is ever heaved his way for needing all that help to win.

Shaq & Kobe went through some battles. Kings, Blazers first year, Indiana in finals, Spurs every year! This mfer overrated Bron had to leave his hometown and create a super team with his friends that I'm quite sure was already planned from the get go to win a ring! LeBron started this trend by team-up with superstars. Jordan didn't leave bulls to win a ring! Kobe never left his team to win a ring, Magic never did that! Bird never did. Hakeem never did! And he suppose to be up there with Jordan?! GTFO!!

And this mfer Bronstruggle with a celtic team with no superstar player, just role players.

 

[MalikX]

30 is not = to 29.

He was a sidechick.

A hof player is not a sidekick
A sidekick is a supporting player
A supporting player is a player that might average 12 - 19 ppg per season
A sidekick doesn't average 29 points per game. That's better than 90% of the top players on other teams.

Learn what a supporting player actually is.

 

[Taadow]

A hof player is not a sidekick
A sidekick is a supporting player
A supporting player is a player that might average 12 - 19 ppg per season
A sidekick doesn't average 29 points per game. That's better than 90% of the top players on other teams.

Learn what a supporting player actually is.

A sidekick is a nicca who gets his kicks on the side of the major player. Which Kobe did.
He was a sidekick.

 

[MalikX]

A sidekick is a nicca who gets his kicks on the side of the major player. Which Kobe did.
He was a sidekick.

You're not the boss of anything if another guy is averaging as many points as you. If I'm wrong, then why did Shaq find himself on the departure side of LAX

 

[Taadow]

You're not the boss of anything if another guy is averaging as many points as you.

He wasn't averaging as many points as Shaq, doe.

...and imagine how much wider their scoring gap would be if Shaq could hit FTs. lol

 

[MalikX]

He wasn't averaging as many points as Shaq, doe.

...and imagine how much wider their scoring gap would be if Shaq could hit FTs. lol

You skipped the latter half of my post.

Imagine LeBron getting pushed out of Cleveland for Kyrie. Wouldn't happen. But Shaq got them walking papers. Guess he wasn't that nikka like he thought he was Kobe retired a Laker and got love from the basketball world as he went out, Shaq was somewhere in Boston or Phoenix, who knows one day he was playing then the next he became a sportscaster. Nobody cared

 

[Taadow]

You skipped the latter half of my post.

Imagine LeBron getting pushed out of Cleveland for Kyrie. Wouldn't happen. But Shaq got them walking papers. Guess he wasn't that nikka like he thought he was Kobe retired a Laker and got love from the basketball world as he went out, Shaq was somewhere in Boston or Phoenix, who knows one day he was playing then the next he became a sportscaster. Nobody cared

Yeah, I skipped that part of your post because it has Jack Schitt to do with what happened on the court.

Kobe was a sidechick on the Lakers when Shaq was there.

And there always comes a day when the sidechick gives the dude an ultimatum because she wants to be the main.

That's what Kobe did - because he was a sidechick.

 

[MalikX]

Yeah, I skipped that part of your post because it has Jack Schitt to do with what happened on the court.

Kobe was a sidechick on the Lakers when Shaq was there.

And there always comes a day when the sidechick gives the dude an ultimatum because she wants to be the main.

That's what Kobe did - because he was a sidechick.

Has plenty to do with it. Would Chicago let Jordan leave so they could build a team around Scottie? Yet that's what happened with Shaq. That kills your narrative dead in the water. Then it got murdered again when Kobe went to 3 finals as Shaq's career fizzled out.

 

[Taadow]

Has plenty to do with it. Would Chicago let Jordan leave so they could build a team around Scottie?

ROFL

 

[DrexlersFade]

Why nikkas still bringing up Shaq cause they scared of Bron now let's bring Shaq down for extra points.

Funny thing that's sad about Kobe stans Bron not even chasing him...Y'all didn't catch Mike what u bytching for. He in the top 20 call it a day

 

[BigTyme Records]

All I know is Shaq >>>> Kobe by a mile

 

[Sccit]

All I know is Shaq >>>> Kobe by a mile

LOLLLLL KOBE WAS ALREADY AS GOOD AS SHAQ AT 21 YEARS OLD, BEFORE HE WAS IN HIS PRIME

PRIME KOBE IS A LEVEL ABOVE SHAQ (TWO ABOVE LEBRON)