Why does San Fran play Alex Smith again?
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at that Ponder comparison
It's about skill-set breh. I look at skill-set, work ethic, tools, and what not. I can't control if a QB goes to a crappy team and fails.
StreetDawah
Alhamdulillah
OPTiMO
SamsoniteMan
Ponder's skill sets is no where near Montana'sPass me some of what you smoking.
It is at this stage, it's his consistency for right now. He has the same skill-set. Get him a #2 and
I like that Gabbert = Chris Chandler and Ponder = Montana....but Gabbert is rated higher than Ponder.
Gabbert was more ready than Ponder out of college but I feel Gabbert ceiling isn't that high but I think he is a better player than what he's doing in J'ville. That's not a good supporting cast or even close to one.
King P
Legends Never Die
Let's not act like Montana had a great skill set though.
There's a reason why he was a mid-round draft pick
There's a reason why he was a mid-round draft pick
Tell me about Tom Brady's lack of a skill set too while you're at it.......
He's a WCO QB. You can't put him in any type of offense and expect greatness. It's gonna take time no matter what when you are a WCO QB. This isn't the read option or shotgun.
Tom came out of college looking like this
Tom came out of college looking like this
...and?
King P
Legends Never Die
Here's Brady's scouting report...
Notes: Baseball catcher and football quarterback in high school who was drafted by the Montreal Expos in the 18th round of the June 1995 baseball draft. Opted for football and redshirted at Michigan in '95. Saw limited action in '96 and '97 and started the past two years. Completed 3 of 5 passes for 26 yards, no touchdowns and one interception in '96, 12-15-103-0-0 in '97, 214-350-2,636-15-12 in '98 and 180-295-2,216-16-6 in '99, when he often shared time with super sophomore Drew Henson. Went all the way against Alabama in the Orange Bowl and completed 34-46-369-4. Unlike many Michigan quarterbacks, Brady is a pocket-type passer who plays best in a dropback-type system.
Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.
Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the '99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.
Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone.
Notes: Baseball catcher and football quarterback in high school who was drafted by the Montreal Expos in the 18th round of the June 1995 baseball draft. Opted for football and redshirted at Michigan in '95. Saw limited action in '96 and '97 and started the past two years. Completed 3 of 5 passes for 26 yards, no touchdowns and one interception in '96, 12-15-103-0-0 in '97, 214-350-2,636-15-12 in '98 and 180-295-2,216-16-6 in '99, when he often shared time with super sophomore Drew Henson. Went all the way against Alabama in the Orange Bowl and completed 34-46-369-4. Unlike many Michigan quarterbacks, Brady is a pocket-type passer who plays best in a dropback-type system.
Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.
Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the '99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.
Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone.
Absolut
Legal Bookie
anyone have an update? did he make it? is he not for everyone?
yseJ
Empire strikes back
He's a WCO QB. You can't put him in any type of offense and expect greatness. It's gonna take time no matter what when you are a WCO QB. This isn't the read option or shotgun.
Tom came out of college looking like this
you really saying Montana was a Wco qb at ND ? Lol at Montana not having a skill set yet somehow coming back in plenty of games at ND. And what does at Brady pic have to do with anything ? Jay cutler prolly looks even more flabby n sick right now