Why does Microsofts 1st party cross-gen games have performance modes?

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Because it's a non issue.

Just like all these games from miles to rachet that are only possible with the power of the PlayStation 5 SSD :mjlol:




The series x still out performs the PS5 in a number of areas now including VRR and ALLM.

It's way to early to really get the juice out these machines
It’ll never outperform the PS5 where it matters the most though :sas1:
 

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Since the thread is based on the gospel, I shall enter this thread on nimbus...
I’m just trying to figure out where the extra flops are goin:yeshrug:
To your threads, I think you're a hoarder btw
Too many people were blinded by the "12tflops" hype. Every other reasonable person understood that this was going to be a generation of one or the other.
Blinded by 12 tflops of hype?
So games are not consistently running at higher resolutions at higher settings? Are you aware that the streets of cyberpunk are literally empty on PlayStation and fully populated on the 12tflop machine?

Because you're a Sony Stan facts like this is little known and never discussed. Digital foundry has a video on it if anybody thinks I just told a lie. I CHALLENGE ANYBODY TO PROVE THAT WRONG OR...OR, ACKNOWLEDGE IT :win:
I notice that nobody has come with facts to counter the points made in OP
He made no points because Horizon Forbidden Fungameplay is a PS4 game. I repeat, is a last gen game. This thread is him still crying over me exposing the truth. Forza horizon 5 looks photorealistic, and simulations are best at 30fps. But for people who don't know that they need 60fps to justify their own existence. PC gamers will say they need 144, anything less will be uncivilized. So then, what did I say that got these boys so upset?
These next gen consoles are clearly way more capable of creating games that are not possible on previous gen consoles, especially if we talking single player experiences. So after there "we believe in generations" comments the early narrative was the Xbox one would hold back next gen development because Microsoft wanted to go cross gen like you do on PC.

SONY BELIEVES IN GENERATIONS THO :blessed:

And with the announcement that God of war as also a cross gen title, the next generation won't begin until 2023 at the earliest on PS5 :francis:
So then what are you getting on PS5 since a true next gen experience isn't possible on last gen hardware? Well you're getting the PS4 version with built in PS5 system features. And you're being charged extra just to access it :picard:

But don't take my word for it, here's what it says on Sony's website about the PS5 versions "upgrades"

PlayStation 5™ features
  • Fast loading: Fast-travel across the map and get back into the game almost instantly with the PS5 console’s ultra high-speed SSD and fast load times.
  • Stunning visuals: Experience the vast world of Horizon Forbidden West in stunning 4K and HDR.* From mountain tops to small sprigs of leaves, everything is realized to incredible detail at an enormous scale. Targeting 60fps, Performance Mode further enhances smoothness of movement, animations and controls.

  • Haptic feedback: Get closer to each fight Aloy takes on with the DualSense™ wireless controller’s haptic feedback. Feel the sensation of blades of grass you brush past when making a stealth approach, melee swipes you make against machines and armored humans, and the directional impact from enemy attacks when you attempt to evade.
  • Adaptive triggers: Enjoy a new level of immersion when you interact with different objects using the DualSense wireless controller’s adaptive triggers. Feel the tension in the string of your bow, the pull of your new grappling tool and the resistance of the triggers on heavy tribal and mechanical weapons.

  • Tempest 3D AudioTech on compatible headphones: Listen to the landscapes of Horizon Forbidden West come to life around you with the PS5 console’s Tempest 3D AudioTech. Hear vegetation rustle in the wind, birds flying overhead and large mechanical machines swimming in the water below as you explore environments teeming with wildlife and machines
So 5 bullet points, all of them built in system features.

1. Faster loading - Why are you paying $10 because you have a faster SSD built in?

2. Stunning visuals - Then it goes into detail what it means, it means 4k and HDR, then it mentions 60fps while carefully wording it in such a way so you could speculate mistakenly that it's 4k/60. But you won't be mistaken that they charging you $10 more because you have a 4ktv:francis:


3. Haptic feedback - Glorified rumble controls that is standard in a ps5 controller, you gotta pay 10 extra if you wanna use it tho :hubie:

4. Adaptive triggers aka the same thing, built in system features :dame:

5. 3d audio. So they charging you extra again just to use built in features

So the gimmick is they'll add rumble support and dynamic 4k and then they will call it next gen because of that :huhldup:
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it doesn't matter how many flops you got. you can always choose to prioritize framerate or resolution/graphics
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Interesting….so how is it actually more powerful?
Well in the newest releases case, far cry 6 for example. The highest resolution the ps5 can run the game at is the lowest resolution the series x can run it, and the Xbox has higher detail settings and that's common practice these days. Cyberpunk being the most blatant but par for the course...
I honestly dont remember that being a major marketing point from sony last gen
Well sir to brush up your memory look up literally any thread from 2013-2015 and you'll find your answers from your peers and probably yourself under your old alias
Yep. I remember when it was "anti-consumer" to not support past generations but now that they're being supported, it's an issue.
The Xbox 360 played Xbox games, the Xbox one played 360 and og Xbox games, the Xbox series plays Xbox one, 360, OG and runs emulators so I can play even PS1/2/3 games on my Xbox while you can't do that on a PS4/5 because they're anti consumer. You have a subscription service that is anti consumer while the competition has a pro consumer service. Microsoft is even about to let you legally fix your console without voiding the warranty because that's a Sony/Nintendo practice that they are actively trying to change. They also have black faces in their games, in their company, even presentators are often black. Cloud so you don't even need a console if you can afford one or if you don't have 4k you can get a series s. They truly care about giving the consumer choices. Now you know :ufdup:
 

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Blinded by 12 tflops of hype?
So games are not consistently running at higher resolutions at higher settings? Are you aware that the streets of cyberpunk are literally empty on PlayStation and fully populated on the 12tflop machine?

Because you're a Sony Stan facts like this is little known and never discussed. Digital foundry has a video on it if anybody thinks I just told a lie. I CHALLENGE ANYBODY TO PROVE THAT WRONG OR...OR, ACKNOWLEDGE IT :win:
Yes. HYPE. The Series X was supposed to run EVERYTHING at native 4k (2160p) + 60fps (or 120fps) + rtrt and that's not happening. Instead, we're getting games that have a ~13% higher ceiling when using DRS or a few extra frames and performance modes. Hardly the world beater you dudes was hyping up. And that's got :umad:
 

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Yes. HYPE. The Series X was supposed to run EVERYTHING at native 4k (2160p) + 60fps (or 120fps) + rtrt and that's not happening. Instead, we're getting games that have a ~13% higher ceiling when using DRS or a few extra frames and performance modes. Hardly the world beater you dudes was hyping up. And that's got :umad:

Talk to em. :wow:
 

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Since the thread is based on the gospel, I shall enter this thread on nimbus...

To your threads, I think you're a hoarder btw

Blinded by 12 tflops of hype?
So games are not consistently running at higher resolutions at higher settings? Are you aware that the streets of cyberpunk are literally empty on PlayStation and fully populated on the 12tflop machine?

Because you're a Sony Stan facts like this is little known and never discussed. Digital foundry has a video on it if anybody thinks I just told a lie. I CHALLENGE ANYBODY TO PROVE THAT WRONG OR...OR, ACKNOWLEDGE IT :win:

He made no points because Horizon Forbidden Fungameplay is a PS4 game. I repeat, is a last gen game. This thread is him still crying over me exposing the truth. Forza horizon 5 looks photorealistic, and simulations are best at 30fps. But for people who don't know that they need 60fps to justify their own existence. PC gamers will say they need 144, anything less will be uncivilized. So then, what did I say that got these boys so upset?
These next gen consoles are clearly way more capable of creating games that are not possible on previous gen consoles, especially if we talking single player experiences. So after there "we believe in generations" comments the early narrative was the Xbox one would hold back next gen development because Microsoft wanted to go cross gen like you do on PC.

SONY BELIEVES IN GENERATIONS THO :blessed:

And with the announcement that God of war as also a cross gen title, the next generation won't begin until 2023 at the earliest on PS5 :francis:
So then what are you getting on PS5 since a true next gen experience isn't possible on last gen hardware? Well you're getting the PS4 version with built in PS5 system features. And you're being charged extra just to access it :picard:

But don't take my word for it, here's what it says on Sony's website about the PS5 versions "upgrades"


So 5 bullet points, all of them built in system features.

1. Faster loading - Why are you paying $10 because you have a faster SSD built in?

2. Stunning visuals - Then it goes into detail what it means, it means 4k and HDR, then it mentions 60fps while carefully wording it in such a way so you could speculate mistakenly that it's 4k/60. But you won't be mistaken that they charging you $10 more because you have a 4ktv:francis:


3. Haptic feedback - Glorified rumble controls that is standard in a ps5 controller, you gotta pay 10 extra if you wanna use it tho :hubie:

4. Adaptive triggers aka the same thing, built in system features :dame:

5. 3d audio. So they charging you extra again just to use built in features

So the gimmick is they'll add rumble support and dynamic 4k and then they will call it next gen because of that :huhldup:
:manny:

This

Well in the newest releases case, far cry 6 for example. The highest resolution the ps5 can run the game at is the lowest resolution the series x can run it, and the Xbox has higher detail settings and that's common practice these days. Cyberpunk being the most blatant but par for the course...

Well sir to brush up your memory look up literally any thread from 2013-2015 and you'll find your answers from your peers and probably yourself under your old alias

The Xbox 360 played Xbox games, the Xbox one played 360 and og Xbox games, the Xbox series plays Xbox one, 360, OG and runs emulators so I can play even PS1/2/3 games on my Xbox while you can't do that on a PS4/5 because they're anti consumer. You have a subscription service that is anti consumer while the competition has a pro consumer service. Microsoft is even about to let you legally fix your console without voiding the warranty because that's a Sony/Nintendo practice that they are actively trying to change. They also have black faces in their games, in their company, even presentators are often black. Cloud so you don't even need a console if you can afford one or if you don't have 4k you can get a series s. They truly care about giving the consumer choices. Now you know :ufdup:
If you hype on 12 teraflops, you should build a pc with 34 teraflops(check out some of the upper end rtx 3000 series cards, we got that). With gamepass ultimate u could eat with the convenience of consoles n the power of a rig. That cross progression, that cross play. Youd have a good time. :jawalrus:
 

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Yes. HYPE. The Series X was supposed to run EVERYTHING at native 4k (2160p) + 60fps (or 120fps) + rtrt and that's not happening. Instead, we're getting games that have a ~13% higher ceiling when using DRS or a few extra frames and performance modes. Hardly the world beater you dudes was hyping up. And that's got :umad:
First off, you nikkaz lie about literally everything :stop: Nobody anywhere said it's supposed to run everything native, you made that up. But what was you saying during this exact same time period about PS5? The ssd is supposed to mean something special. You dumb illiterate fukks was going all in about how the I/O is so advanced that you don't even need 10+T-flops, you see how ratchet and clank has you going thru different universes :ooh: and it's going to be backwards compatible with PS1/2/3/4/5 :blessed:

Let's ignore the fact MOST of those games are NOT tied to your PSN account because y'all was anti digital as a whole :ufdup:

What you don't seem to understand is the Xbox dev kits were not ready and even rdna2 features were not ready to roll at launch. It's hilarious that you're ignoring that just like you're ignoring that in cyberpunk 2077 the PlayStation version has no pedestrians in the streets while the Xbox one is fully populated. The game was never pulled from our stores :win:
If you hype on 12 teraflops, you should build a pc with 34 teraflops(check out some of the upper end rtx 3000 series cards, we got that). With gamepass ultimate u could eat with the convenience of consoles n the power of a rig. That cross progression, that cross play. Youd have a good time. :jawalrus:
Uh, this is a console war. You want to be noticed so bad but you're not important to us ok :camby:

Besides, I have over 600 games tied to my Gamertag and the gamepass app doesn't allow for all that :stop: I mean I can remote stream from my console which I do.. but that's different. I don't want to game on PC, I don't respect gamers who prefer to cheat or have an advantage over other players. That's what the PC crowd is all about when it comes to actually playing games. The better graphics are cool but the people you're playing against aren't as cool as the console gaming community... Nintendo excluded, I don't trust them stinky b*stards :mjpls:
 

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First off, you nikkaz lie about literally everything :stop: Nobody anywhere said it's supposed to run everything native, you made that up. But what was you saying during this exact same time period about PS5? The ssd is supposed to mean something special. You dumb illiterate fukks was going all in about how the I/O is so advanced that you don't even need 10+T-flops, you see how ratchet and clank has you going thru different universes :ooh: and it's going to be backwards compatible with PS1/2/3/4/5 :blessed:

Let's ignore the fact MOST of those games are NOT tied to your PSN account because y'all was anti digital as a whole :ufdup:

What you don't seem to understand is the Xbox dev kits were not ready and even rdna2 features were not ready to roll at launch. It's hilarious that you're ignoring that just like you're ignoring that in cyberpunk 2077 the PlayStation version has no pedestrians in the streets while the Xbox one is fully populated. The game was never pulled from our stores :win:

Uh, this is a console war. You want to be noticed so bad but you're not important to us ok :camby:

Besides, I have over 600 games tied to my Gamertag and the gamepass app doesn't allow for all that :stop: I mean I can remote stream from my console which I do.. but that's different. I don't want to game on PC, I don't respect gamers who prefer to cheat or have an advantage over other players. That's what the PC crowd is all about when it comes to actually playing games. The better graphics are cool but the people you're playing against aren't as cool as the console gaming community... Nintendo excluded, I don't trust them stinky b*stards :mjpls:
I don't know why I'm wasting my time with this but I gotta shut you down.

Here's all of the posts where you was hyping shyt up from native to 120fps to rt and machine learning. Don't wanna clutter up the page so

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First off, you nikkaz lie about literally everything :stop: Nobody anywhere said it's supposed to run everything native, you made that up. But what was you saying during this exact same time period about PS5? The ssd is supposed to mean something special. You dumb illiterate fukks was going all in about how the I/O is so advanced that you don't even need 10+T-flops, you see how ratchet and clank has you going thru different universes :ooh: and it's going to be backwards compatible with PS1/2/3/4/5 :blessed:

Let's ignore the fact MOST of those games are NOT tied to your PSN account because y'all was anti digital as a whole :ufdup:

What you don't seem to understand is the Xbox dev kits were not ready and even rdna2 features were not ready to roll at launch. It's hilarious that you're ignoring that just like you're ignoring that in cyberpunk 2077 the PlayStation version has no pedestrians in the streets while the Xbox one is fully populated. The game was never pulled from our stores :win:

Uh, this is a console war. You want to be noticed so bad but you're not important to us ok :camby:

Besides, I have over 600 games tied to my Gamertag and the gamepass app doesn't allow for all that :stop: I mean I can remote stream from my console which I do.. but that's different. I don't want to game on PC, I don't respect gamers who prefer to cheat or have an advantage over other players. That's what the PC crowd is all about when it comes to actually playing games. The better graphics are cool but the people you're playing against aren't as cool as the console gaming community... Nintendo excluded, I don't trust them stinky b*stards :mjpls:
ya so a 3 teraflop diff makes all the worlds diff when its an xbox vs a playstion thing, but a THREE TIMES teraflop diff is no biggie n small potatoes when comparing xbox to pc. thanks for reinforcing what we've known for 15 years that you full of shyt. you took the bait n responded exactly how I thought you would. thanks Craig! :smile:
 

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ya so a 3 teraflop diff makes all the worlds diff when its an xbox vs a playstion thing, but a THREE TIMES teraflop diff is no biggie n small potatoes when comparing xbox to pc. thanks for reinforcing what we've known for 15 years that you full of shyt. you took the bait n responded exactly how I thought you would. thanks Craig! :smile:


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