Why does it seem that Black people can never get ahead in America?

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You both may be right to an extent, so could you explain what you meant by: "Blacks can live in a majority white society just fine if the communities were funded." ?

What do you mean by, "just fine"? And, is it your opinion that whites would allow Blacks to have more power or equal power to the white in a white structure?
 

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Do you really believe that?

I know that.

You both may be right to an extent, so could you explain what you meant by: "Blacks can live in a majority white society just fine if the communities were funded." ?

What do you mean by, "just fine"? And, is it your opinion that whites would allow Blacks to have more power or equal power to the white in a white structure?

The White structure no longer exists if Blacks have access to capital.
 

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I know that.



The White structure no longer exists if Blacks have access to capital.
You know that? Well cite some comparable examples. This shouldn't be a conversation where we throw insults. Assuming your Black and this is a forum where we are discussing our issues and sharing our thoughts with the public, let's discuss this like reasonable adults.
 

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You know that? Well cite some comparable examples. This shouldn't be a conversation where we throw insults. Assuming your Black and this is a forum where we are discussing our issues and sharing our thoughts with the public, let's discuss this like reasonable adults.

Zimbabwe, Cuba, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Uganda, Sudan, Syria

All homogenous nations that don't border America yet using embargoes, America was able to destroy their economies


surplus labor (slavery) ----> 100% profit and capital -------> wealth

if Blacks are gaining funding and wealth, it means Whites lose less agency in how our communities are run and it means some of their own stolen wealth has been given back
 

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Asian Americans and Jewish Americans?

Both of these groups are way more powerful now in the US than European Americans.....fact

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You both may be right to an extent, so could you explain what you meant by: "Blacks can live in a majority white society just fine if the communities were funded." ?

What do you mean by, "just fine"? And, is it your opinion that whites would allow Blacks to have more power or equal power to the white in a white structure?

Why do you think cacs made Obama president for two terms in a country with a black population of only 14%?
 

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Zimbabwe, Cuba, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Uganda, Sudan, Syria

All homogenous nations that don't border America yet using embargoes, America was able to destroy their economies



surplus labor (slavery) ----> 100% profit and capital -------> wealth

if Blacks are gaining funding and wealth, it means Whites lose less agency in how our communities are run and it means some of their own stolen wealth has been given back
If you're comparing countries, certainly. African-American isn't a country. But I'm glad you raise that point because this is indeed about self-determination. You're basically saying that the enemy can reach us wherever we go therefore why don't we just continue to stand right next to him. I guess.

Your second paragraph is exactly what Blacks have been trying to do since slavery was abolished. And each time, the power structure has crushed our attempts using brute force. So now what?
 

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why do you blame everything on white ppl? why do you always talk about the "white man"? half of the post on this forum "white man this white man that". Is it like that thing where the employees only talk about their bosses? It's amazing to see that after all these years the slave gene is still present
i see you didnt read the original Posted links. Do not reply to anyone else in this thread until you do. and tell us how were the hard workers and people who TRIED to do things no matter what, treated? how did those black folks fair? Let us know the answer
 

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You're basically saying that the enemy can reach us wherever we go therefore why don't we just continue to stand right next to him.

If you are calling the American government "the enemy" explicitly and obstructing their geopolitical goals then sure, they will come for you, but I don't see the need for that.


second paragraph is exactly what Blacks have been trying to do since slavery was abolished. And each time, the power structure has crushed our attempts using brute force. So now what?

No, Black people never had a mass movement for more capital. Black Wall Street and the Panther social programs were created circulating existing capital, which we did not have a lot of at that time.

There is a large gap between now and the 70s. Believe or not, but many ethnic enclaves function in America, despite a few hate crimes here or there. I do not believe that White racist would be nearly as much of a physical threat to destroying a whole community like they were capable in 1920, especially given that everything is now integrated in the global economy.
 
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