Came in to post this. Yeah, if he stays healthy and focused, it could get ugly.
Still negged for Wiseman slander.
Why does it feel like Jonathan Kuminga is still being slept on?
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Came in to post this. Yeah, if he stays healthy and focused, it could get ugly.
Still negged for Wiseman slander.
Every time I see you up in a thread talking about hoops you're getting carried away, letting box score stats lead you astray, when the game doesn't work like that. That's just what it is. It ain't an attack on your character or anything, just your arguments. Bringing up the point about him shooting above 50% when All-Stars and HOFers haven't is a red herring. It's a pointless thing to bring up when the volume is that low you can't take anything of value away from his percentages.
You're not going to see his game for what it is if you're looking at the box score.
Ranked #3 - https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/jonathan-kuminga-208382.
I guess the point here is that he was in that discussion, so he could've easily improved his stock if he went to college, which he would've had more opportunity of doing so rather than the route he took. Which if he did raise his stock, he would've been in the #1 conversation - keyword being conversation here.
Kuminga is ahead of Jaylen at the same stage, but that's got nothing to do with their respective box score stats, which are marginal, at best. Which is why I don't understand bringing him up and those stats in the first place. There's nothing of note in Kuminga's surface stats that is going to reflect what he does on the floor and what his potential is.
Only the tape is going to reveal that, and not some archaic measurements that were only used to give a general outlook of the game at its inception.
There is nothing the tape shows that the box score won’t validate. If the box actor can’t validate it something is wrong. The exception maybe being James harden foul baiting shenanigans and stat padding
Otherwise, eye test and anecdotes fade: the box score better match up.
Steph is the greatest shooter ever…yep, it checks out
Shaq is the most dominant big man ever. Yep, checks out
Rodman the best rebounder ever. That’s not just from memory my G we have actual facts to back it up. “Box scores”
Ie I don’t need to watch tape to know if a guy is a shooter. Show me his 3pt % that’s literally all I need to know. “box scores”
stop being lazy and just watch the games bozo
That’s corny fam. Never said I don’t watch the games. But watching games ain’t the end all be all. There’s 30 teams 82 games 12 players. I am humble enough to say I do not have a literal or metaphorical file on every player. No one does—-except literal scouts. If you can’t cop to that you trying too hard.
Not to mention, this is the league. ALL these nggas can bump. It’s the consistency that sets guys apart. And THAT is captured in the mfin box score. statistics. Over 82 games, multiple years, they won’t lie to you. Ie If you ‘just watched’ a Nick young or a Lance Stephenson at the right time of the year you’d think they were all-nba players. Checking the stats however shows they ain’t consistent.
I don’t trust anybody on some ‘watch the games’ bc a) I know you can’t watch all of em so I already know you doin too much, and b) everybody’s eye ain’t the same. You can watch a million games and not understand what the next person gets in one watch. ‘Watch the game’ like you Pete Carril out here stop it
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Nobody is “sleeping “ on a project who just finished his rookie year.
He’s really raw. It’s not really sleeping on him when he’s barely played. Maybe he develops into a stud. Wouldn’t be surprised with that organization. Good chance he doesn’t though. Will be interesting to see cause son is a hell of an athlete
He played 70 games and averaged 17 minutes - that's more than enough games and time on the floor for folks to see his potential. He's a star in the making and the discourse hasn't really reflected that - I understand why that is, I'm just pointing it out. Once he fine-tunes his offensive game, it's a wrap. He has everything else in abundance.
I think he needs to figure out how to play through things that don't go his way. He had some terrible body language today. I suspect he doesn't do that when playing actual regular season gamesHe played 70 games and averaged 17 minutes - that's more than enough games and time on the floor for folks to see his potential. He's a star in the making and the discourse hasn't really reflected that - I understand why that is, I'm just pointing it out. Once he fine-tunes his offensive game, it's a wrap. He has everything else in abundance.