Why does Diddy have so much bad Karma around him?

[Harry B]

Right!! If you think about it all his artist were mostly under 25 , but I still stand by atleast structuring the deal to be fair he had that power and didn’t

Imo as long as you understand what you are signing and it's the best contract offered to you, then it's fair in a competitive market.
If I go to 5 labels and they say we will only sign you for a 80k salary, nothing more or less in terms of publishing, split, show money, sign-on etc, paid unconditionally. Then that's fair.

 

[The God Poster]

Most of that shyt had nothing to do with him

Karma tho breh karma

 

[Wild self]

Puffy is the devil.

Anyone who makes a deal with him ends up paying for it in the end.

Puffy the reason why the non-drug lord crowd, buys bottles in the club and killed the chances for the non rich black men in the dating game. Before him, no one was buying bottles in the club back in the New Jack Swing era where everyone just danced.

 

[BK The Great]

because he is a twisted part of it

something dark happened between he and Clive Davis, I know it

Nobody makes it to that level without doing something out of the ordinary. Diddy ain’t the only one.

 

[YourMumsRoom]

Last time we saw Carl Thomas he was floating on a raft with his dog

....that imagery!
I remember this.

 

[CrimsonTider]

you forgot that his Intro to the world was killing 9 people in the city college incident

Say what now

 

[BK The Great]

DMX knows what’s going on.

 

[kingofnyc]

He got Pac killed

Pac was our biggest voice

pac got himself killed - he snuffed a well known South Side Crip ... whom was all about dat life

 

[L&HH]

This is the reason why I’m curious about the contract, and why none of the artists appear to read before they sign.

Ya'll keep saying this "read before you sign" mess. I don't care how smart you think you are you're not out negotiating a music business deal unless you already have a crazy amount of leverage. Also realize these are 16, 17, 18 year olds from the hood, high school dropouts with literally NOTHING signing these deals. If you're option was between sign this deal or go back to selling drugs, stripping, hustling, etc. You're going to sign the deal take that $30k advance and that apartment in LA or NY and try to blow up.

And the reason I say this is because I know some of the "smartest" ppl who were willing to take fukked up deals. I'm talking Physics degree holding college grads in a PhD program. From a great two parent household and he knew the deal wasn't that good. And still wanted to sign and the only reason he didn't was cause he at the very least wanted his lawyer to negotiate a few things for him (less years) and once he put his lawyer in the email they pulled the deal and stopped responding. Now he could afford to take that L because like I said he had other options. A teenage high school dropout who just got out of jail isn't as fortunate.

 

[eastside313]

I can't recall where I seen it but combat jack said it during a podcast

N.O.R.E
de La Soul
tribe
shoot even taylor swift got the same contract


diddy could not change it if he could

diddy is the label owner not the record company owner if that make sense


look at it this way ...kanye contract says he can never retire


thats from universal not def jam and dame jay and biggs


when
112
carl thomas
faith
black rob
mase stop selling



where is diddiy gonna get the money from to push the music ....if you expect diddy to go in his own pocket to push a low selling act you crazy

Not a fact

 

[Starburst]

Ya'll keep saying this "read before you sign" mess. I don't care how smart you think you are you're not out negotiating a music business deal unless you already have a crazy amount of leverage. Also realize these are 16, 17, 18 year olds from the hood, high school dropouts with literally NOTHING signing these deals. If you're option was between sign this deal or go back to selling drugs, stripping, hustling, etc. You're going to sign the deal take that $30k advance and that apartment in LA or NY and try to blow up.

And the reason I say this is because I know some of the "smartest" ppl who were willing to take fukked up deals. I'm talking Physics degree holding college grads in a PhD program. From a great two parent household and he knew the deal wasn't that good. And still wanted to sign and the only reason he didn't was cause he at the very least wanted his lawyer to negotiate a few things for him (less years) and once he put his lawyer in the email they pulled the deal and stopped responding. Now he could afford to take that L because like I said he had other options. A teenage high school dropout who just got out of jail isn't as fortunate.

I understand all of this, but it gets hard to have sympathy when nothing is being done to break the cycle. Artists getting shafted in record deals is a tale as old as time.

 

[L&HH]

I understand all of this, but it gets hard to have sympathy when nothing is being done to break the cycle. Artists getting shafted in record deals is a tale as old as time.

The only way it would stop is if the pressure either social or politcally (or both) gets applied to labels. We gotta stop looking at the exploited for taking fukked up deals and start looking at the predators (label owners) for offering them in the first place. Right now no job could offer you $2/hr because we have minimum wage laws. In the film industry there are standards and minimums they have to adhere to. Things won't change unless the same is asked for in the music industry.

 

[dezert_storm]

He got Pac killed

Pac was our biggest voice

He didn’t make 2Pac put hands on a known shooter

 

[KravenMorehead™]

 

[Starburst]

The only way it would stop is if the pressure either social or politcally (or both) gets applied to labels. We gotta stop looking at the exploited for taking fukked up deals and start looking at the predators (label owners) for offering them in the first place. Right now no job could offer you $2/hr because we have minimum wage laws. In the film industry there are standards and minimums they have to adhere to. Things won't change unless the same is asked for in the music industry.

In my opinion both sides are to blame. I agree there needs to be a minimum standard that labels adhere to, but on the other end, artists need to put desperation aside, and invest in their future. If that means hiring an independent lawyer to review the contract, or potentially walking away then so be it.