Why does Conor gas so quickly?

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He's not undersized for 155 hes 5'9 walks around at 170. Dudes like Tony Ferguson 5'11 walk around at 200+ can still make 155 easily and work a frenetic pace for 5 rounds. Some people just have bad cardio
He's not a boxer, thats why.

He's not trained and conditioned to go 12 rounds of constant movement, getting hit with punches, throwing punches, most importantly MISSING punches against someone at the level of competition Floyd is in.

And tbh, Floyd knew that anyway. Canelo used to have that problem but corrected it in his last fight. Being in the ring is mentally and physically exhausting if you never did that before.. It's different that just hitting a heavybag or some bullshyt UFC bag on a wall

And Floyd doesn't train for traditional rounds anyway. Dude might go for like 10 minutes straight. I saw Floyd hit the heavybag for 40 minutes straight one time... Of consistent punches. I can barely do that for 10 minutes

Thats what sparring partners are for as well. While Conor was going 12 rounds against Paulie, he should have been switching out fresh sparring partners every 2/4 rounds and training for a 15 round fight instead of 12..

But even still, Floyd was going to wear his ass out, it's inevitable. Dude was a fukking amature
 

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If floyd stepped into the octagon its over in 30 seconds

No participation trophy there
 

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He's not a boxer, thats why.

He's not trained and conditioned to go 12 rounds of constant movement, getting hit with punches, throwing punches, most importantly MISSING punches against someone at the level of competition Floyd is in.

And tbh, Floyd knew that anyway. Canelo used to have that problem but corrected it in his last fight. Being in the ring is mentally and physically exhausting if you never did that before.. It's different that just hitting a heavybag or some bullshyt UFC bag on a wall

And Floyd doesn't train for traditional rounds anyway. Dude might go for like 10 minutes straight. I saw Floyd hit the heavybag for 40 minutes straight one time... Of consistent punches. I can barely do that for 10 minutes

Thats what sparring partners are for as well. While Conor was going 12 rounds against Paulie, he should have been switching out fresh sparring partners every 2/4 rounds and training for a 15 round fight instead of 12..

But even still, Floyd was going to wear his ass out, it's inevitable. Dude was a fukking amature
Yeah, there was no amount of work Conor could've possibly done to condition his body in the amount of time he had... or even period at this point. Not to mention Floyd is just on another level of conditioning/stamina, some of that shyt is natural/a gift from God. No amount of training is going to get someone to Floyd's level.

Besides, Conor's only shot was trying to end the fight early and he knew it. There really was no scenario for him to beat Floyd over 12 rounds, so him not being conditioned for it is a little overblown anyway.
 

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Apparently according to sherdog mcgregor can't run because of his knees

So how can u build stamina without running?

Floyd loves running
 

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He's not a boxer, thats why.

He's not trained and conditioned to go 12 rounds of constant movement, getting hit with punches, throwing punches, most importantly MISSING punches against someone at the level of competition Floyd is in.

And tbh, Floyd knew that anyway. Canelo used to have that problem but corrected it in his last fight. Being in the ring is mentally and physically exhausting if you never did that before.. It's different that just hitting a heavybag or some bullshyt UFC bag on a wall

And Floyd doesn't train for traditional rounds anyway. Dude might go for like 10 minutes straight. I saw Floyd hit the heavybag for 40 minutes straight one time... Of consistent punches. I can barely do that for 10 minutes

Thats what sparring partners are for as well. While Conor was going 12 rounds against Paulie, he should have been switching out fresh sparring partners every 2/4 rounds and training for a 15 round fight instead of 12..

But even still, Floyd was going to wear his ass out, it's inevitable. Dude was a fukking amature

Save the rant I'm talking MMA. He has terrible cardio there too
 

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He's a coward who prefers to fight guys way smaller than him (he dwarfed Floyd). Dropping weight saps energy.

He also throws everything into the first round.

he moved up to fight much bigger nate. :gucci:


and money is the only fighter who would make him 30mil +
 

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You've trained both MMA and boxing?

What did you prefer? What would you recommend others to try? I'm starting pro wrestling training, but I want to incorporate combat in like 3-4 years time.

Yes, Muay Thai Boxing primarily then I trained western style boxing along with BJJ and Judo for a little over a decade. I'm merely at the local/recreational level at this point in life and the time for going pro has long since passed, but I just focus on grappling now. I preferred striking because it was very intrinsic for my body type which is long and lean, sticking the jab to keep them out, then make them work to get the inside to meet them with a left hook. If they get in too much, just use a Thai clinch to get out (which actually what Conor kept doing to Floyd last night)

I've always recommended the "triangle" to folks not just for the sport, but for a practical self-defense standpoint too. Conditioning for boxing is bar none, one of the toughest around, so I'd recommend:
- Boxing for footwork, conditioning, and muscle memory for defensive counters (slipping, guard, weaving)
- Judo or Greco Roman to supplement Standup Grappling and mostly understanding how to fall from any angle and how to get off your back if you are thrown there or fall unexpectedly.
- BJJ is how to finish opponents from top position or off your back.

If I had to recommend two for you, it'd be Boxing and BJJ as Judo takes close to a decade to really master fundamentals against an moderate to elite grappler.
 

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Gotta agree with the guy who answered that the reason Conor gassed was because he wasn't a boxer. It's really that simple. Most people tend to think that striking and boxing are the same thing. It's not. Floyd has had over 20 years to refine his craft. He knows all of the subtle tricks to retain energy. Conor is young and new to the sport, and wasn't up on all the tricks. Boxing is a science, it really is, and there was no way that Conor was going to be able to keep up, even though Floyd was barely taking the fight seriously. In our gym we refer to this as the "Williams Principal" after Jim Kelly's character in Enter the Dragon.

Basically what it means is that you can have a fighter who is younger and far more physically gifted get decimated by a an older, less physically imposing fighter if the older man can exploit the younger man's ignorance and weaknesses. Watch the fight with Conor, and look at how Floyd went to the body. Conor hits flat fisted, a common thing with MMA guys. Granted his punches would hurt, but they basically do surface damage and that's it. When Floyd pops you, his punches are going THROUGH your body. He can hit you in the chest and fukk your back muscles up at the same time. He knows how to twist his punches at the wrist, and generate more force with his hips. That's something he can do without thinking. Conor was always at a disadvantage because he had to make a mental effort to do something that Floyd does automatically. And a good body shot will sap your will to fight far faster than head shots will. A head shot will make you bleed blood, body shots will make you leak stamina.

Conor was actually in very good shape...he gassed because he was simply too new to the game, and goign up against a guy who knew exactly how to make him burn far more energy than he expected.
 

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he moved up to fight much bigger nate. :gucci:


and money is the only fighter who would make him 30mil +

No he didn't, don't fall for that cac's lies - they're both fighters from the 155 lbs division. Let me repeat, they're both fighters from the 155 lbs division. Nate Diaz is taller, but he is not bigger. Nate actually tried his hand at 170 lbs (next weight class up) and got rag dolled by everyone. He's a 155 lbs fighter who competes in McGregor's weight class. He's actually very frail and lanky for a UFC fighter.

.Sherdog’s Official Mixed Martial Arts Rankings - Lightweight

^Nate is a fighter ranked in McGregor's weight class, Conor simply lost to some guy (who's solid, not great) then made a bunch of excuses. They fought at 170 lbs that night because McGregor was too fukking big to make 155 lbs. They both moved up.

Like I said, he's a way bigger guy than the majority of his opponents (he dwarfs everyone he fought at 145 lbs.). Nate and Eddie Alvarez are the only top fighters his size he's ever fought.
 

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Yes, Muay Thai Boxing primarily then I trained western style boxing along with BJJ and Judo for a little over a decade. I'm merely at the local/recreational level at this point in life and the time for going pro has long since passed, but I just focus on grappling now. I preferred striking because it was very intrinsic for my body type which is long and lean, sticking the jab to keep them out, then make them work to get the inside to meet them with a left hook. If they get in too much, just use a Thai clinch to get out (which actually what Conor kept doing to Floyd last night)

I've always recommended the "triangle" to folks not just for the sport, but for a practical self-defense standpoint too. Conditioning for boxing is bar none, one of the toughest around, so I'd recommend:
- Boxing for footwork, conditioning, and muscle memory for defensive counters (slipping, guard, weaving)
- Judo or Greco Roman to supplement Standup Grappling and mostly understanding how to fall from any angle and how to get off your back if you are thrown there or fall unexpectedly.
- BJJ is how to finish opponents from top position or off your back.

If I had to recommend two for you, it'd be Boxing and BJJ as Judo takes close to a decade to really master fundamentals against an moderate to elite grappler.
There's an MMA gym near me that doesn't do boxing but does MMA, muay thai, greco-roman wrestling and BJJ. They don't do traditional boxing.
 
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