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then women shouldn't let him fukk raw, or be on birth control. argument goes both ways, most dudes will fukk raw if you let him

If he dips out because he can't fukk raw, then you know what type of dude you're dealing with [in general not you specifically]

BOTH need to protect themselves true but once the seed is planted, the man has few options so be needs to control himself BEFORE the egg is fertilized. Let a woman control sex when you have the most to lose, breh.
 

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Broad knows the consequences of sex. Not to mention sex with a nicca who looks out for himself. When you lay down with a woman, you have to accept the fact that she might end up with a seed and are you willing to deal with that. A lot of young black women make HORRIBLE decisions over and over and over again. Still dealing with the nicca after 1 seed, been knowing he isn't a good man, and now you got 4 kids with this nicca? Surreal. Truth be told, the women are just as detrimental to the future as these no good men are.
 

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All I ask of you is to get an abortion if I want you to. I don't want to take care of this accident because of your "morals", otherwise I'm gonna kick you to the curb and leave you to take care of junior by yourself :camby:
so u think morals should not be acknowledged in social decisions in human society...hmmm


Dnt lemme hear u crying and rallyign against murders or rapes since those too are mere "moral" issues :sas2:


Cac atheists sooo dumb yet soo entertaining :pachaha: :lolbron:
 

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BOTH need to protect themselves true but once the seed is planted, the man has few options so be needs to control himself BEFORE the egg is fertilized. Let a woman control sex when you have the most to lose, breh.

and women have too many options once the seed is planted. which is why it tilts the blame of unwanted childbirths towards the woman.

and dudes can give a girl a fake identity and never see her again. who really has more to lose by not properly vetting their sex partners?
 

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so u think morals should not be acknowledged in social decisions in human society...hmmm


Dnt lemme hear u crying and rallyign against murders or rapes since those too are mere "moral" issues :sas2:


Cac atheists sooo dumb yet soo entertaining :pachaha: :lolbron:
I was being sarcastic
 

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To the Op, in this forum, you can't really have an open dialogue on this particular issue. Most Coli's male members are either not experience, too immature, or very shallow to speak on this subject. Maybe some of the male members have some baby mama issues, but they don't want to reveal their personal problems. I advise you take this subject to a forum that cater to parenting so that you can get some real insight of child abandonment.
 

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I can't explain the mindset because not everyone is the same. Some women know what they are in for and some women are fooled. Y'all act like every ain't shyt man shows how he ain't shyt. Dudes run a lot of game. Y'all act like in relationships people can't be deceitful.

how are women being fooled into thinking "aint shyt" men would make good fathers and providers?

As far as a woman wanting a man with a lot of kids. That would depend on factors. Does she know he got a lot of kids? Is he taking care of them? Does she like a lot of kids?

well the only factor that should matter is whether she knew or not. all that other shyt should be irrelevant. but for the sake of debate, lets say she knows he has multiple kids that he clearly doesn't have the money to support -- even though he claims to love them.

Your second question is too broad. Be more specific so I can answer it better.

And I don't want to read no shyt about a woman should know she is being deceived because everyone in this world can be deceived in some way shape or form. Men fall for loser women too.
how is it any more broad than your thread title? :heh:
 

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how are women being fooled into thinking "aint shyt" men would make good fathers and providers?



well the only factor that should matter is whether she knew or not. all that other shyt should be irrelevant. but for the sake of debate, lets say she knows he has multiple kids that he clearly doesn't have the money to support -- even though he claims to love them.


how is it any more broad than your thread title? :heh:
My thread title is asking a simple ass question. You asked a question without saying if the guy could take care of the kids or not and if they woman liked kids. A man having a lot of kids is not bad unless he doesnt take care of them. You didnt say that originally which is why I asked what you were referring to.

A woman that is with a man who has a lot of kids that he doesnt take care of is dumb. You simple only asked me that cause you wanted me to call out a woman for being dumb

very pathetic. you have made so many excuses for men. Just say that a man needs to be responsible for what he makes just like a woman should.

you need to change your name to thegreatestcaper :cape::cape::cape::cape: cause you doing to much
 

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Listen, we all know a lot of black men don't like taking responsibility for anything.

At first it was the government through welfare disincentivizing black men from being in the home.

The boys raised by these first generation single moms were coddled and came to believe that women didn't need a man to be there cause "momma ain't need pops to raise me, so my baby momma should be fine". Moms never reinforced that he should take care of his seeds cause how could she when her own man dipped.

The girls learn not to depend on a man and thus open their legs for anyone, take their chances and fulfill prophecy.

Another thing is that the American black man is broke and has no sense of value (besides or dikk game), so he feels he has nothing to pass on to his kids.

Pretty much the American black man is lost with no incentive to do better. I still contend that in the VAST majority of the cases (I'd say 85-95%), the woman shouldve known better. That's why you get married BEFORE dropping a seed. It's the best indicator of a man's attitude towards commitment and responsibility.
 

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My thread title is asking a simple ass question. You asked a question without saying if the guy could take care of the kids or not and if they woman liked kids. A man having a lot of kids is not bad unless he doesnt take care of them. You didnt say that originally which is why I asked what you were referring to.

my question was just as simple as yours.

but how can a man have enough time and money to truly parent multiple kids by different women? this whole 'take care of' shyt is never expounded upon. i dont think women even know what they mean by it.

A woman that is with a man who has a lot of kids that he doesnt take care of is dumb. You simple only asked me that cause you wanted me to call out a woman for being dumb

very pathetic. you have made so many excuses for men. Just say that a man needs to be responsible for what he makes just like a woman should.

no, i matched a broad question for a broad question. saying "men need to be responsible" doesn't explain why deadbeats neglect their kids. you just wanna hear them 90s talk show retorts that never explain how we got to the problem in the first place.

you need to change your name to thegreatestcaper :cape::cape::cape::cape: cause you doing to much

there's nothing to scape goat. you want empty rhetoric over why it actually happens, and how you can prevent it.
 

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Personally, I don't think it's normalized. The majority of cats I know are in their kids lives. There is a misconception that black men refuse to take care of their children, just like there is a misconception black women all have shytty attitudes.

With that said, If you want an answer to that question, you might want to ask the cats you know personally why they're not in their children's lives. The coli ain't the place for these types of discussions.

Like you, I can only speculate as to why a subset of the Black male population sucks....Every black man that I know who has children, takes care of em...:yeshrug:... I think this question is perfect for the Coli.... I don't have personal experience with this, but maybe somebody on the Coli can shed some light from a different angle...
 

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Like you, I can only speculate as to why a subset of the Black male population sucks....Every black man that I know who has children, takes care of em...:yeshrug:... I think this question is perfect for the Coli.... I don't have personal experience with this, but maybe somebody on the Coli can shed some light from a different angle...
i dont think most deadbeat dads are the same type of dudes that get pleasure out of posting on online forums. i'm fully aware there's some exceptions, but come on. any other time y'all quick to say these dudes cant even get p*ssy. how we become deadbeat dads as well.
 

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i dont think most deadbeat dads are the same type of dudes that get pleasure out of posting on online forums. i'm fully aware there's some exceptions, but come on. any other time y'all quick to say these dudes cant even get p*ssy. how we become deadbeat dads as well.

I am not making the assumption that Coli members are deadbeat dads... It is you sir who thinks this negatively of the Coli... I simply think that some posters may have friends or family members who have taken the irresponsible route and could share some insight...some may have even been raised by single mothers...

@marcuz could you shed some light on the genesis of your hatred for single mothers?
 

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@marcuz could you shed some light on the genesis of your hatred for single mothers?

:heh: hatred. well i've never been particularly fond of single mothers. even as a child, i realized it wasn't the natural order. but i've grown to "hate" them because they purposely choose to keep the cycle of broken homes going. they dont even want to be honest over the circumstances that left them a single parent.
 

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I am not making the assumption that Coli members are deadbeat dads... It is you sir who thinks this negatively of the Coli... I simply think that some posters may have friends or family members who have taken the irresponsible route and could share some insight...some may have even been raised by single mothers...

@marcuz could you shed some light on the genesis of your hatred for single mothers?
we actin like single mothers are a good thing:usure:
 
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