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It wasn't meant to negate his responsibility, there were 2 people in that bed. One did it, one allowed it to happen. Both need to accept the responsibility, unfortunately for the woman she is often the one that has to bear the consequences alone.

That's my whole point and it is unfortunate.
 

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I honestly dont know. I couldnt imagine doing it, if I have kids, he/she is stuck with me forever, and the mom is too. I'm up in they grill trying to get every other weekend.

That's probably why I dont have kids, because I actually view it as a life long commitment and that's scary to me. I float like the wind, and a child will anchor me down for sure. I have MANY women I mess with tell me I'll be a good dad, and I know I will, but the thing is I don't want to have kids WITH THEM. I'm selecting a woman I know I can tolerate forever....or atleast until the child becomes an adult and there's not very many humans I can tolerate for long periods of time as it is thats not blood. Friends I had last year arent close friends this year, but that's life of an expat. So imagining having someone there forever is :wow: to me. It's a big deal

but back to the question, females need to stop fukking with nikkas that aint shyt, buying them woof tickets he selling (men are snakes:manny: the dikk has a serpent tongue) and get wiser. I mean just look around how can you not know? its like being eve and eating the god damn apple over and over, you see other eves eating the apple and STILL eating the god damn apple and what point do you say "hmmmm that apple is sin and causes chaos maybe I should just chill the fukk out despite my biological clock telling me otherwise"

anyways Im rambling but yea, women are fukking idiots. god forbid there's birth control for men, the population would be cut in half. you stupid broads have access to it and still get pregnant tf is wrong with you.
 

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You keep wanting to shuffle blame mostly to the woman. We are going to have to agree to disagree friend.
Thats the thing.

I think both deserve blame equally.

Did you ask me tho? No, you just assumed otherwise. :sas1:

I talked about the solution.

Yet somehow you pin me as someone who blames mostly the woman as you do with many in this thread.

See how that works? :sas2:
 

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I agree with that.

Now - say he doesn't "run out", but rather is "pushed out" by the mother. What kind of sense does that make?

I can't stand women like that. Its selfish. If you made the mistake and had a child with someone you can't stand or no longer wants to be with you, you bare the burden of having to deal with that man the rest of your life. You have to sacrifice for what is best for your child. Having their father in their like is best. It's not about you anymore.
 

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god forbid there's birth control for men, the population would be cut in half. you stupid broads have access to it and still get pregnant tf is wrong with you.

:lawd: they dont hear you. they'll be actively seeking irresponsible nikkas who arent on BC. no babies gettin cut when we're able to get the shot.
 

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Thats the thing. I think both deserve blame equally.

Did you ask me tho? No you just assumed otherwise. :sas1:

I talked about the solution.

Yet somehow you pin me as someone who blames mostly the woman as you do with many in this thread.

See how that works? :sas2:

I didn't pin you as anything but what you presented. I didn't talk about you personally at all actually. You kept putting yourself into the situation, I spoke in general terms based of what you said.

If you say:

Let me ask you a question.

If a woman tells a guy he wont have sex with her until he puts on a condom you dont think he will listen?

Women run the relationship game. At least accept responsibility for that.

I always strap up but thats just me.

I cant control all of these men which is why I need women to do their part and make any immature man who they have sex with wear condoms.


Yes "some" of these men are child like and immature.

I agree that both are responsible but thats just me, you and a few other smart people.

The rest are immature.

So if a woman makes a choice to have sex with an immature male she should take the necessary precautions which will stop those immature men from doing what they do.

They should but this world isnt perfect so many are not.

Therefore we must act accordingly to protect ourselves from them.

What conclusion should I draw about your thoughts on the situation? What you are saying makes no sense.
 

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you typed all that and still didn't answer my question. lets try this again.

with more women choosing legitimate sperm banks. who will y'all have to blame when these kids turn out "less than ideal"? are you going to claim its still our faults cus nikkas didn't want to "step up" and co-parent another mans kid? or do you accept full, 100% responsibility for your choices

Men who are intentionally not choosing to be apart of their child's lives should get shared blame for the outcome of that child. Women who choose sperm banks or are pushing the father of their child away should get the sole blame for the turn out of that child.
 

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That's different because it's not like the father wouldn't be around because he didn't want anything to do with the child. Just like if you're married and your husband dies...he's not going to be around, but the kid won't grow up with abandonment issues.
So you're saying it's the abandonment aspect that is the big concern, here? These kids grow up to be angry that their dads left them?

Okay may be you're right? But what about the argument that these kids will turn gay or be effeminite (sp) because they grow up without a father?

As seen in this thread
 

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:dwillhuh: How can it not be more percentage on their part doe? Dere is no sex unless da woman allows it. (Outside of rape of course)

Yeah but men initiate. How do you start up a car and then be mad that it actually drives?
 

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I didn't pin you as anything but what you presented. I didn't talk about you personally at all actually. You kept putting yourself into the situation, I spoke in general terms based of what you said.

If you say:

What conclusion should I draw about your thoughts on the situation? What you are saying makes no sense.
What I said says nothing about who to blame.

The conclusion you should of gotten is that I am not specifying on who to blame and am only specifying on a solution to stop it from happening in the future.

Then because you dont know who I think should of received blame then you should of asked me to make it clear.

Proper communication is key. Here and in relationships as well.
 

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:dwillhuh: How can it not be more percentage on their part doe? Dere is no sex unless da woman allows it. (Outside of rape of course)

A baby can't be made without sperm. The child gets half from each parent. Both parties don't want a kid both parties take proper precaution
 

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Ldtz be real women choose the most horrible men to lie with.

Talk to most of these mothers and dude was a player beforehand, cheated beforehand, only came around to get his nut off. But suddenly having a kid he's going to be Mr responsible?

These women wanted scum and got scum
 
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