Why Do People Hate Jehovah's Witnesses & Mormons?

[SirReginald]

shyt, my wife's mom is a JW so i'm used to it now. I look at them like any other religion. There's a lot of truth in what they're saying, but it's used to cover up a lot of bullshyt within their organizations.

so they basically use it as a front?

 

[Mowgli]

@FrederickDouglas

The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures is a translation of the Bible published by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society in 1961; it is used and distributed by Jehovah's Witnesses

The following are scriptures removed completely from the NWT bible
A TYPICAL EXAMPLE (Matthew 18):

10. See to it that you men do not despise one of these little ones; for I tell you, That their angels in heaven always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. 11. -----
12. "What do you think? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astrayed, will he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? ("New World Translation", Revised 1984 edition.)


Matthew 17:21 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."


Matthew 18:11 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."


Matthew 23:14 -- COMPLETELY removed. What arethe Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."


Mark 7:16 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."


Mark 9:44 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."


Mark 9:46 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."


Mark 11:26 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."


Mark 15:28 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."


Mark 16:9-20 (all 12 verses) -- They separated the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text in an appendix (of sorts)with this detracting statement: "Some late manuscripts and versions contain a short conclusion after Mark 16:8, as follows] (New World Translation, Revised 1984 edition)

Luke 1:28 - Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "blessed art thou among women"

Luke 17:36 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."


Luke 23:17 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"(For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)"


John 5:4 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."



Jn. 7:53- 8:11 (all 12 verses) -- They separated the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text and place it at the bottom of the page in a appendix (of sorts)with this detracting statement: "Manuscripts NBSYS omit verses 53 to chapter 8, verse 11, which read ( with some variations in the various Greek texts and versions) as follows:"


Acts 8:37 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."


Acts 15:34 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still."


Act 24:6-8 -- Vitally important phrases (from verses 6,8) and all of verse 7 COMPLETELY removed. "and would have judged according to our law. But the chief captain Sysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands, commanding his accusers to come unto thee:"


Acts 28:29 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves."


Romans 16:24 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."



Colossians 1:2 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed."and the Lord Jesus Christ"



Colossians 2:2 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and of the Father, and"



I John 5:13 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God"



Rev 1:11 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and,"


Rev 2:15 -- important phrase COMPLETELY removed "which thing I hate"



Rev 21:24 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "of them which are saved"



I John 5:7 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. In the Jehovah's Witness "New World Translation" it says,

"For there are three witness bearers,"

What are the NWT readers missing? What does the real Bible say?

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."


Bible says we should not add or take away any of the scriptures
Deuteronomy 4:2
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Revelation 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


Jeremiah 26:2
Thus saith the LORD; Stand in the court of the LORD'S house, and speak unto all the cities of Judah, which come to worship in the LORD'S house, all the words that I command thee to speak unto them; diminish not a word:

Cacs did that already when they made the new testament

 

[Entrapta310]

Cacs did that already when they made the new testament

king james was the biggest culprit of this.
and intentionally left out books

 

[Mowgli]

“It is generally believed that the curse which Noah pronounced upon Canaan was the origin of the black race. Certain it is that when Noah said, “Cursed be Canaan, a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren,” he pictured the future of the Colored race. They have been and are a race of servants, but now in the dawn of the twentieth century, we are all coming to see this matter of service in its true light and to find that the only real joy in life is in serving others; not bossing them. There is no servant in the world as good as a good Colored servant, and the joy that he gets from rendering faithful service is one of the purest joys there is in the world. ”
— The Golden Age, July 24, 1929

“While it is true that the white race exhibits some qualities of superiority over any other, we are to remember that there are wide differences in the same Caucasian (Semitic and Aryan) family; and also we should remember that some of the qualities which have given this branch of the human family its preeminence in the world are not such as can be pointed to as in all respects admirable...
The secret of the greater intelligence and aptitude of the Caucasian undoubtedly in great measure is to be attributed to the commingling of blood amongst its various branches; and this was evidently forced in large measure by circumstances under divine control.”
— Zion's Watch Tower 07/15 1902

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Wait, G-d hates people of different races I thought G-d was suppose to be loving?

Deuteronomy 7:6
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.


Deuteronomy 4:7
For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?

Romans 9:12-15
It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.


Isaiah 40:15
Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.

Genesis 25:23
And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

Deuteronomy 26:18
And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments;
And to make thee high above all nations which he hath made, in praise, and in name, and in honour; and that thou mayest be an holy people unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken.

1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, to proclaim the virtues of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.

Acts 13:17
The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it.

Exodus 19:5
Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

Cacs did that already when they made the new testament

 

[FrederickDouglas]

God is talking about we should not treat rich people or people with stature better than common or poor people. Thats what "respect of person" means. Hes not talking about races. God made it clear who he loves and who he hates as a race of people. Thats what you are getting confused

Malachi 1:3
And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Isaiah 40:15
Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.

Now who GOD LOVES

Exodus 19:5
Deuteronomy 14:2
Deuteronomy 26:17-19

"You have today declared the LORD to be your God, and that you would walk in His ways and keep His statutes, His commandments and His ordinances, and listen to His voice. "The LORD has today declared you to be His people, a treasured possession, as He promised you, and that you should keep all His commandments; and that He will set you high above all nations which He has made, for praise, fame, and honor; and that you shall be a consecrated people to the LORD your God, as He has spoken."

2 Samuel 7:23-24

"And what one nation on the earth is like Your people Israel, whom God went to redeem for Himself as a people and to make a name for Himself, and to do a great thing for You and awesome things for Your land, before Your people whom You have redeemed for Yourself from Egypt, from nations and their gods? "For You have established for Yourself Your people Israel as Your own people forever, and You, O LORD, have become their God.

1 Kings 8:53
1 Kings 10:9
1 Chronicles 17:20-21

"O LORD, there is none like You, nor is there any God besides You, according to all that we have heard with our ears. "And what one nation in the earth is like Your people Israel, whom God went to redeem for Himself as a people, to make You a name by great and terrible things, in driving out nations from before Your people, whom You redeemed out of Egypt?

Psalm 135:4
Isaiah 41:8
Isaiah 43:1-3

But now, thus says the LORD, your Creator, O Jacob, And He who formed you, O Israel, "Do not fear, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name; you are Mine! "When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; And through the rivers, they will not overflow you When you walk through the fire, you will not be scorched, Nor will the flame burn you. "For I am the LORD your God, The Holy One of Israel, your Savior; I have given Egypt as your ransom, Cush and Seba in your place.

Isaiah 44:21
Jeremiah 31:1-4

"At that time," declares the LORD, "I will be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be My people." Thus says the LORD, "The people who survived the sword Found grace in the wilderness-- Israel, when it went to find its rest." The LORD appeared to him from afar, saying, "I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore I have drawn you with lovingkindness.Jeremiah 46:27-28

"But as for you, O Jacob My servant, do not fear, Nor be dismayed, O Israel! For, see, I am going to save you from afar, And your descendants from the land of their captivity; And Jacob will return and be undisturbed And secure, with no one making him tremble. "O Jacob My servant, do not fear," declares the LORD, "For I am with you For I will make a full end of all the nations Where I have driven you, Yet I will not make a full end of you; But I will correct you properly And by no means leave you unpunished."

Ezekiel 36:24-28

"For I will take you from the nations, gather you from all the lands and bring you into your own land. "Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. "Moreover, I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.Ezekiel 37:21-25

"Say to them, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I will take the sons of Israel from among the nations where they have gone, and I will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king will be king for all of them; and they will no longer be two nations and no longer be divided into two kingdoms. "They will no longer defile themselves with their idols, or with their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. And they will be My people, and I will be their God. Joel 3:1-2

"For behold, in those days and at that time, When I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all the nations And bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat Then I will enter into judgment with them there On behalf of My people and My inheritance, Israel, Whom they have scattered among the nations; And they have divided up My land.

Amos 3:1-2

Hear this word which the LORD has spoken against you, sons of Israel, against the entire family which He brought up from the land of Egypt: "You only have I chosen among all the families of the earth; Therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities."

Romans 11:1-2

I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel?





I just proved using scriptures you can't remove any verses from the bible so their explanation is horse shyt

The scripture said that God was no "respecter of persons" but it also said that people from "every nation" who feared him were acceptable.

Do you agree or no?

Also you CAN add AND take away Scripture. Revelation 22:18, 19 says as much.

If someone adds something to scripture that wasn't there originally, they're the ones who distort the message, not someone who removes stuff that wasn't there to begin with.

 

[FrederickDouglas]

“It is generally believed that the curse which Noah pronounced upon Canaan was the origin of the black race. Certain it is that when Noah said, “Cursed be Canaan, a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren,” he pictured the future of the Colored race. They have been and are a race of servants, but now in the dawn of the twentieth century, we are all coming to see this matter of service in its true light and to find that the only real joy in life is in serving others; not bossing them. There is no servant in the world as good as a good Colored servant, and the joy that he gets from rendering faithful service is one of the purest joys there is in the world. ”
— The Golden Age, July 24, 1929

“While it is true that the white race exhibits some qualities of superiority over any other, we are to remember that there are wide differences in the same Caucasian (Semitic and Aryan) family; and also we should remember that some of the qualities which have given this branch of the human family its preeminence in the world are not such as can be pointed to as in all respects admirable...
The secret of the greater intelligence and aptitude of the Caucasian undoubtedly in great measure is to be attributed to the commingling of blood amongst its various branches; and this was evidently forced in large measure by circumstances under divine control.”
— Zion's Watch Tower 07/15 1902

That was addressed earlier in the thread.

 

[Mowgli]

That was addressed earlier in the thread.

So

 

[richaveli83]

All my encounters with JW's have been cool. I respect them for actually trying to live their beliefs and propagate their faith. When they knock on my door I just take their literature and politely decline their offers to attend their church services.

 

[FrederickDouglas]

So

That was addressed earlier in the thread.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

The scripture said that God was no "respecter of persons" but it also said that people from "every nation" who feared him were acceptable.

Do you agree or no?

Also you CAN add AND take away Scripture. Revelation 22:18, 19 says as much.

If someone adds something to scripture that wasn't there originally, they're the ones who distort the message, not someone who removes stuff that wasn't there to begin with.

God was talking to the Israelites when he said hes not a respector of persons. God was talking to the Israelties when he gave his "dos and donts in Deuteronomy". He also said "if you don't obey me i will scatter you all over the world and you will live in the midst of the nations. So he love all the Israelites all over the world

Proof
Deuteronomy 28:64
"Moreover, the LORD will scatter you among all peoples, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth; and there you shall serve other gods, wood and stone, which you or your fathers have not known.

Deuteronomy 28:64
And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
Leviticus 26:33
'You, however, I will scatter among the nations and will draw out a sword after you, as your land becomes desolate and your cities become waste.

Psalm 106:27
And that He would cast their seed among the nations And scatter them in the lands.

Jeremiah 9:16
"I will scatter them among the nations, whom neither they nor their fathers have known; and I will send the sword after them until I have annihilated them."

Ezekiel 12:15
"So they will know that I am the LORD when I scatter them among the nations and spread them among the countries.

Ezekiel 20:23
"Also I swore to them in the wilderness that I would scatter them among the nations and disperse them among the lands,

Ezekiel 22:15
"I will scatter you among the nations and I will disperse you through the lands, and I will consume your uncleanness from you.

Zechariah 10:9
"When I scatter them among the peoples, They will remember Me in far countries, And they with their children will live and come back.

Jeremiah 13:24
"Therefore I will scatter them like drifting straw To the desert wind.

Ezekiel 5:10
'Therefore, fathers will eat their sons among you, and sons will eat their fathers; for I will execute judgments on you and scatter all your remnant to every wind.

Jeremiah 18:17
'Like an east wind I will scatter them Before the enemy; I will show them My back and not My face In the day of their calamity.'

Ezekiel 12:14
"I will scatter to every wind all who are around him, his helpers and all his troops; and I will draw out a sword after them.

1 Kings 14:15
"For the LORD will strike Israel, as a reed is shaken in the water; and He will uproot Israel from this good land which He gave to their fathers, and will scatter them beyond the Euphrates River, because they have made their Asherim, provoking the LORD to anger.

Nehemiah 1:8
"Remember the word which You commanded Your servant Moses, saying, 'If you are unfaithful I will scatter you among the peoples;

Lamentations 4:16
The presence of the LORD has scattered them, He will not continue to regard them; They did not honor the priests, They did not favor the elders.
Psalm 44:11
You give us as sheep to be eaten And have scattered us among the nations.

Zechariah 7:14
"but I scattered them with a storm wind among all the nations whom they have not known Thus the land is desolated behind them so that no one went back and forth, for they made the pleasant land desolate."

Ezekiel 36:19
"Also I scattered them among the nations and they were dispersed throughout the lands According to their ways and their deeds I judged them

Zechariah 2:6
"Ho there! Flee from the land of the north," declares the LORD, "for I have dispersed you as the four winds of the heavens," declares the LORD

Jeremiah 30:11
'For I am with you,' declares the LORD, 'to save you; For I will destroy completely all the nations where I have scattered you, Only I will not destroy you completely But I will chasten you justly And will by no means leave you unpunished.'
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Ezekiel 11:16
"Therefore say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Though I had removed them far away among the nations and though I had scattered them among the countries, yet I was a sanctuary for them a little while in the countries where they had gone."'

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[IVS]

They are considered to be cults by mainstream Christians. Mormons and JW have an awful racist past (historically speaking) but so did many mainstream churches ... but in all fairness every group has idiots.

How can the pot call the kettle black. But Christianity is a cult. So....? Its the cult of Jesus of Nazareth, who they believe to be the Christ.

Catholicism is a religion composed of several cults, masquerading as being connected to Jesus of Nazareth. In fact, the catholic cults are attached to other saints like Ignatius Loyola (the Society of Loyola is called the Jesuits), Francis of Assissi (the cult founded in his name is Franciscan Order), Dominican Order is the cult of Dominic de Guzman etc.

Just as Mohammedan-Islam is the cult of Muhammad.

 

[Mowgli]

Changing shyt around isn't going tor Make me ignore it's foundation.

 

[tuckgod]

so they basically use it as a front?

That's been my experience

 

[SirReginald]

That's been my experience

Alright