Why do Muslims feel the need to respond violently to everything which "offends" Islam

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I disagree with my muslim coli brothers on this issue, I welcome and enjoy the alternative reaction of the ummah, it shows sincerity and faith in it's true form, something completely alien to atheist sodomites. They can't possibly understand why we simply refuse to be mocked and ridiculed and the day we accept such blasphemy is the day we open the gates for the kaffirs to water down our religion.

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Jesus was no prophet he is God.

He says in the Bible before Abraham he was there.
I'm sure Muhammad missed that part.

Where does he say that?

That goes against saying worship the one and only true God.

The whole point about God is that God is unlike creation and a prophet and messenger of Hod proclaiming he is God goes against these principles

Jesus in Quran:

"And behold! God will say [i.e. on the Day of Judgment]: 'Oh Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God?' He will say: 'Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would indeed have known it. You know what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Yours. For You know in full all that is hidden. Never did I say to them anything except what You commanded me to say: 'Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.' And I was a witness over them while I lived among them. When You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a witness to all things'" (Quran 5:116-117).
 

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Where does he say that?

That goes against saying worship the one and only true God.

The whole point about God is that God is unlike creation and a prophet and messenger of Hod proclaiming he is God goes against these principles

Jesus in Quran:

"And behold! God will say [i.e. on the Day of Judgment]: 'Oh Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God?' He will say: 'Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would indeed have known it. You know what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Yours. For You know in full all that is hidden. Never did I say to them anything except what You commanded me to say: 'Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.' And I was a witness over them while I lived among them. When You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a witness to all things'" (Quran 5:116-117).

◄ John 8:58 ►
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

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The fact that Muhammad came about many years after Jesus makes Islam highly suspicious. You cannot claim a man who came centuries before you is a prophet when that man has already said He was around long before Abraham.
 

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Where does he say that?

That goes against saying worship the one and only true God.

The whole point about God is that God is unlike creation and a prophet and messenger of Hod proclaiming he is God goes against these principles

Jesus in Quran:

"And behold! God will say [i.e. on the Day of Judgment]: 'Oh Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God?' He will say: 'Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would indeed have known it. You know what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Yours. For You know in full all that is hidden. Never did I say to them anything except what You commanded me to say: 'Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.' And I was a witness over them while I lived among them. When You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a witness to all things'" (Quran 5:116-117).

I crushed him in a debate on this in another thread... he was totally deluded.

I disagree with my muslim coli brothers on this issue, I welcome and enjoy the alternative reaction of the ummah, it shows sincerity and faith in it's true form, something completely alien to atheist sodomites. They can't possibly understand why we simply refuse to be mocked and ridiculed and the day we accept such blasphemy is the day we open the gates for the kaffirs to water down our religion.

For sure I never, ever in my life accept someone ridiculing our holy prophet, the sahaba, Muslims, and most of all the Creator, but there are different ways of not accepting something. I don't accept violence against women, but I don't beat up women beaters. ETC ETC you get the point. It's also impossible to water down Sunni Islam, because it is so decentralized.
 

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I crushed him in a debate on this in another thread... he was totally deluded.

Only one deluded is you.

For Muhammad to even claim Jesus is a prophet when Jesus himself has said he has been around since Abraham is blasphemy in the highest order.
 

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Only one deluded is you.

For Muhammad to even claim Jesus is a prophet when Jesus himself has said he has been around since Abraham is blasphemy in the highest order.

I already explained this to you :yawn:


Jesus said he saw Abraham before he was born... there are many people who are in the Bible who were alive before Abraham and also around during the time of Jesus... like Satan... if this is a criteria for being divine then :snoop:
 

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I already explained this to you :yawn:


Jesus said he saw Abraham before he was born... there are many people who are in the Bible who were alive before Abraham and also around during the time of Jesus... like Satan... if this is a criteria for being divine then :snoop:

John 10:30-33 - Jesus answered them, “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God


Jesus claimed so many times in the Bible he and God are one (That's how Christians derive our trinity from).

He cannot be a prophet if he is claiming equalness with God.

This is re-enforced so many times in the book of revelations as well.
He is God and seated at the right hand side of the father in heaven.


Muhammad was/is a fraud
 

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Jesus claimed so many times in the Bible he and God are one (That's how Christians derive our trinity from).

He cannot be a prophet if he is claiming equalness with God.

This is re-enforced so many times in the book of revelations as well.
He is God and seated at the right hand side of the father in heaven.


Muhammad was/is a fraud

Another half truth from a half reader.

This does not imply equality, it only implies that he has a prophetic ascension. He never gave himself equality with god, or claimed to be a creator.

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I (John 14:28)

MY FATHER is GREATER than I, is that equality?
 

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Another half truth from a half reader.

This does not imply equality, it only implies that he has a prophetic ascension. He never gave himself equality with god, or claimed to be a creator.



MY FATHER is GREATER than I, is that equality?

John 14:9-11 - Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?”
Yup that is equalness with God, If you have seen and heard the words of Jesus,

You sir have heard God. :myman:

Trinity....
 

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Yup that is equalness with God, If you have seen and heard the words of Jesus,

You sir have heard God. :myman:

Trinity....

Lmao WRONG again... are you seriously a Christian or some kind of troll? You didn't even address Jesus clearly saying his Father was greater than him.

When he said who has seen me has seen the Father, lets put that into context... he is a manifestation of the WORKS of the FATHER.

He is not actually the father himself, because according to Jesus nobody can see the Father.

John 8:19: "Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."]
Because he is a prophet of the Father

John 12:44 "Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me."
Who sent him, his FATHER

John 1:18
"No man hath seen God at any time,"

I thought people had seen him, Jesus Christ, who was god? Wrong again bro :manny:
 

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Lmao WRONG again... are you seriously a Christian or some kind of troll? You didn't even address Jesus clearly saying his Father was greater than him.

When he said who has seen me has seen the Father, lets put that into context... he is a manifestation of the WORKS of the FATHER.

He is not actually the father himself, because according to Jesus nobody can see the Father.


Because he is a prophet of the Father


Who sent him, his FATHER



I thought people had seen him, Jesus Christ, who was god? Wrong again bro :manny:

:obama3:

Are you really questioning whether Christians see Jesus as God or prophet?:jada:


Jesus, Father and Holy spirit are what Christians see as the TRINITY.


Revelation 22:13 - “I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”... 22:16 - “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches.”

He makes it clear in the book of revelation, that he was there from the beginning of time and will still be here after the world ends.

ALPHA and OMEGA :yeshrug:


No way you can get to the father without going through Jesus. He works in concert with the father and holy spirit.


There is no such thing as a Christian who doesn't believe Jesus Christ isn't God

TRINITY
 

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Are you really questioning whether Christians see Jesus as God or prophet?:jada:


Jesus, Father and Holy spirit are what Christians see as the TRINITY.

There is no Christian on planet earth who doesn't believe Jesus is God.



He makes it clear in the book of revelation, that he was there from the beginning of time and will still be here after the world ends.

ALPHA and OMEGA :yeshrug:


No way you can get to the father without going through Jesus. He works in concert with the father and holy spirit.


There is no such thing as a Christian who doesn't believe Jesus Christ is God

TRINITY

Who was the speaker in Revelations? Who was the Author?

... And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

These are the words of THE FATHER... Jesus doesn't speak in the third person :dead:

Are you going to address any of the quotes I gave you or act like they never happened, mr Biblical Student :russ:
 

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Who was the speaker in Revelations? Who was the Author?



These are the words of THE FATHER... Jesus doesn't speak in the third person :dead:

Are you going to address any of the quotes I gave you or act like they never happened, mr Biblical Student :russ:


The Book of revelation was written by John.
The same John you have been quoting:obama3:
◄ John 5:18 ►
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Christian see Jesus as God, an equal with God the father.

Are you saying Christian doctrine is wrong for defining Jesus as God?
I need a yes or No for this before I proceed


The book of revelations is one of the most important books in Christianity because it is a direct revelation of endtime prophesy to John.

Muhammad was busy destroying the puzzy of a 9 year old kid(Aisha). Somehow I'm supposed to believe he was a prophet. GFOH

TRINITY.
 

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The Book of revelation was written by John.
The same John you have been quoting:obama3:


Christian see Jesus as God, an equal with God the father.

Are you saying Christian doctrine is wrong for defining Jesus as God?
I need a yes or No for this before I proceed


The book of revelations is one of the most important books in Christianity because it is a direct revelation of endtime prophesy to John.

Muhammad was busy destroying the puzzy of a 9 year old kid(Aisha). Somehow I'm supposed to believe he was a prophet. GFOH

TRINITY.

Even IN revelations, there is no claim to divinity. Christian Doctrine is totally wrong for claiming Jesus is God, because Jesus out of his own mouth never made any claims to divinity, and you have yet to prove it.

Question to you, why do you call Jesus good, when nobody is good but god alone?

Also, is David God's son as well?
 
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