Why do Jews Christians and Muslims call on the supreme Egyptian god "Amen" when ending prayers?

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Wish my posts could of been in the front to school you limited thinking cats. Abraham religions all stem from Egypt but you also have to add the renaming conventions of the Greeks and Romans of African deities and kingdoms etc... There are pharoahs with Amen in their name but they are all the Greek version names so what is the real name behind AMEN :sas2:
 

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You would give a one sided view and not mention Ester the Israelite that saved the entire nation of Israel. Yael in Judges Chapter 4 put in work for the kingdom of Israel too. Or the Hebrew midwives in Exodus 1:15 that saved the hebrew male children when they was told to abort every one at birth. Or how about Hannanh in the book of Tobit. When her husband went blind she picked up the slack since he was not able to work. The bible actually praised her and used her as a example of how a wife should be. 2 Timothy:1 Talks about Louis & Eunice, “When I call to remembrance the unfeigned faith that is in thee, which dwelt first in thy grandmother Lois, and thy mother Eunice; and I am persuaded that in thee also.”.


I can go on and on about the great women in the bible. But the ball is now in your court


This isn't a debate. I dont know why dudes come in here trying to debate. We shoudl be building not debating. Thsi is teh problem with most believers, they are so stuck in their belifs that they cant see things objectively. Wanda Sykes said the same thing about how badly the Bible paints women. Homie it does.....It gives women over the top standards that can never be met. You want proof? Read Proverbs 31........ I can talk about Ruth and Naomi all day. I can also talk about Judith who isn't even mentioned in certain versions of The Bible. You mentioned Queen Esther....Dude she was a concubine. I'm going to use Queen Esther as an example of over the top standards that can never be met since u mentioned her (and I dont even have to Google like u did) You go out there and tell these women how being a noble wife involves being a concubine like Esther was. Go head. Show me an American woman who will follow that standard. Its unrealistic.
 

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Job Chapter 40:15-19

15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.

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SMH. When did God make the dinosaurs alongside man? Dude, man did not exist when Dinosaurs were here. Do you even know what a "behemoth" is??


Behemoth (/bɨˈhiːməθ/ or /ˈbiː.əməθ/, also /ˈbeɪ.əmɔːθ/; Hebrew: בהמות‎, behemoth (modern: behemot)) is a beast mentioned in Job 40:15–24. Suggested identities range from a mythological creature to an elephant, hippopotamus, rhinoceros or buffalo.[1] Some creationists believe it to be a description of a sauropod, due to its tail being described as like a cedar tree. Metaphorically, the name has come to be used for any extremely large or powerful entity.




Now elephants and hippos exist in the same time as man. Dinosaurs didn't. Also, a behemoth is a "mythical creature".....Mythical, like a serpant, or dragon or unicorn. Unicorns and dragons dont exist but Dinosaurs really existed.
 

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This entire criticism stems from a man named Gerald Massey..........

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...........and Godfrey Higgins........

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Ever since Rome fell it has been the study of future empires. One of the biggest intrigues of Rome was "The Cult Of Isis." You dont really hear to much about "The Cult Of Isis" because it involves whitemen who worshipped Black gods.
 

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Jesus the GOAT tho:myman:


Which Jesus tho? You do know there are two versions of Jesus. The Biblical version and the historical version. The Biblical version has Jesus doing all types of miracles. The historical version says that a man named Jesus existed but he didnt have magic powers like that, he was just a gifted leader of men.
 

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Wish my posts could of been in the front to school you limited thinking cats. Abraham religions all stem from Egypt but you also have to add the renaming conventions of the Greeks and Romans of African deities and kingdoms etc... There are pharoahs with Amen in their name but they are all the Greek version names so what is the real name behind AMEN :sas2:


If we talking semantics, Dr Ben actually co signed the variations. They include Amun, Amon, or Amen.
 

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This isn't a debate. I dont know why dudes come in here trying to debate. We shoudl be building not debating. Thsi is teh problem with most believers, they are so stuck in their belifs that they cant see things objectively. Wanda Sykes said the same thing about how badly the Bible paints women. Homie it does.....It gives women over the top standards that can never be met. You want proof? Read Proverbs 31........ I can talk about Ruth and Naomi all day. I can also talk about Judith who isn't even mentioned in certain versions of The Bible. You mentioned Queen Esther....Dude she was a concubine. I'm going to use Queen Esther as an example of over the top standards that can never be met since u mentioned her (and I dont even have to Google like u did) You go out there and tell these women how being a noble wife involves being a concubine like Esther was. Go head. Show me an American woman who will follow that standard. Its unrealistic.

Who said it was a debate. You tried to say the bible paint women in a negative light and the when i prove you dont know what the hell you are talking about and obviously didn't read the entire bible. If you did you wouldn't have made such a stupid post. lol at Esther was a concubine. Your dumb ass gotta make up shyt. You know not to try to bring up Ruth Or Naomi because Ruth 4:14-15 And the women said unto Naomi, Blessed be the LORD, which hath not left thee this day without a kinsman, that his name may be famous in Israel. And he shall be unto thee a restorer of thy life, and a nourisher of thine old age: for thy daughter in law, which loveth thee, which is better to thee than seven sons, hath born him.


SMH. When did God make the dinosaurs alongside man? Dude, man did not exist when Dinosaurs were here. Do you even know what a "behemoth" is??


Behemoth (/bɨˈhiːməθ/ or /ˈbiː.əməθ/, also /ˈbeɪ.əmɔːθ/; Hebrew: בהמות‎, behemoth (modern: behemot)) is a beast mentioned in Job 40:15–24. Suggested identities range from a mythological creature to an elephant, hippopotamus, rhinoceros or buffalo.[1] Some creationists believe it to be a description of a sauropod, due to its tail being described as like a cedar tree. Metaphorically, the name has come to be used for any extremely large or powerful entity.




Now elephants and hippos exist in the same time as man. Dinosaurs didn't. Also, a behemoth is a "mythical creature".....Mythical, like a serpant, or dragon or unicorn. Unicorns and dragons dont exist but Dinosaurs really existed.

This dumbass said its a mythical creature,. but then gonna say Dinosaurs existed . The verse is talking about Dinosaurs. You dont know what the hell you are talking about.. Your quote even says they are talking about dinosaurs

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17He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.

18His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.

 
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More bible verses bashing women lol

Proverbs 31:10-11King James Version (KJV)
10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

Proverbs 31:11-29King James Version (KJV)
11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.

14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.

15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.

16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.

19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.

22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.

23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.

26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.

27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.
 

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You tried to say the bible paint women in a negative light and the when i prove you dont know what the hell you are talking about and obviously didn't read the entire bible. If you did you wouldn't have made such a stupid post. lol at Esther was a concubine. Your dumb ass gotta make up shyt.


My dude. There will always be two versions when dealing with historical figures in the Bible. You are going to have The Biblical version and u are going to have the historical version. Most believers will stay stuck on The Biblical version and denounce the historical version, such as yourself. For example, it is said that King Ramesses was the king during the time of Moses....But King Ramesses didnt die in the Red Sea as the Bible states.....he died of old age according to history. So it all balls down to which version do you want to believe. In the Bible King Nebuchadnezzar is turned into a beast for a few years only to be restored as a human.......But according to world history, that didn't happened. The same with Jesus...according to the Bible, Jesus had magic powers.....according to the historical version he was a man who had the talent to lead men but he didnt have magic powers. King Xerxes(the homo giant depicted in the movie 300) has a historical version of his wives. Now, you do know that historically, Esther isn't even recognized as one of his wives right?? Its only in The Bible that it states that, so again it all balls down to which version u wanna believe. You see me, what I do is called "Conceptual intergration" thats where I take all the versions and mash them together to make a conclusion. Its been pointed out by numerous posters in thsi very thread that I do that. You dont do that because u are stuck in your beliefs which I understand. But the bottom line is that at some point u will have to acknowledge that there are always going to be two versions of events when dealing with historic figures in The Bible.....Me acknowledging Esther as a concubine is me actually saying she did exist in contrast to what the historical version says.
 

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...It gives women over the top standards that can never be met. You want proof? Read Proverbs 31.......



Why did u misquote me?? You posted the verse I told you to look up but I didnt say it was bashing woman when I mentioned that verse....I said it gives women over the top standards.



More bible verses bashing women lol

Proverbs 31:10-11King James Version (KJV)
10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

Proverbs 31:11-29King James Version (KJV)
11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.

14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.

15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.

16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.

19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.

22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.

23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.

26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.

27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.




If u are going to start misquoting me we can just end this. You aren't proving any points and now u are starting to lie on top of hurling insults.
 

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Which Jesus tho? You do know there are two versions of Jesus. The Biblical version and the historical version. The Biblical version has Jesus doing all types of miracles. The historical version says that a man named Jesus existed but he didnt have magic powers like that, he was just a gifted leader of men.
I don't listen to man , I listen to the word of God :sas1:
 

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I don't listen to man , I listen to the word of God :sas1:


The word of God. :ehh:

Did you know that before King James created his version of The Bible he wrote a book on Demonology?? Dude was seriously into demons and witch hunting. Most people who value that KJ Bible dont even know that. Most people who value the KJ version dont even know what land King James was a King of......(It was Scotland by the way). Makes me wonder...Did God really get behind this man into making one of the most popular versions of the Bible?
 

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The word of God. :ehh:

Did you know that before King James created his version of The Bible he wrote a book on Demonology?? Dude was seriously into demons and witch hunting. Most people who value that KJ Bible dont even know that. Most people who value the KJ version dont even know what land King James was a King of......(It was Scotland by the way). Makes me wonder...Did God really get behind this man into making one of the most popular versions of the Bible?

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