Why did you walk away from religion/god?

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no comparison

no sociopath or psychopath can force you into eternal suffering

only god

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are you so sure about that?

in the old testament much dialogue is made about not bowing down nor serving "strange" gods. Indeed the living God is capable of anything but even eternal suffering might not be in that Gods plans. Once again, belief is the gateway and the doors can be quite large.
 

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are you so sure about that?

in the old testament much dialogue is made about not bowing down nor serving "strange" gods. Indeed the living God is capable of anything but even eternal suffering might not be in that Gods plans. Once again, belief is the gateway and the doors can be quite large.
belief is malleable*
 
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belief is malleable*
if so, then so should your belief in "hellfire"
remember the greek "deity" hephaestus, he sticks his hands into the furnace and smashes metal until it becomes a tool for him to use

but the function of his way, is to burn his hands repetitively, and cover his body in soot while breathing noxious vapours only to turn worthless metal into either weapon or gadget (both of which are non-living) :jbhmm:

what is the logical progression of "tilling soil"
 

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if so, then so should your belief in "hellfire"
remember the greek "deity" hephaestus, he sticks his hands into the furnace and smashes metal until it becomes a tool for him to use

but the function of his way, is to burn his hands repetitively, and cover his body in soot while breathing noxious vapours only to turn worthless metal into either weapon or gadget (both of which are non-living) :jbhmm:

what is the logical progression of "tilling soil"
what do i believe¿ ha

input output

plant a apple seed in the soil get a apple tree

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@MMS what are your thoughts on Deuteronomy 28? What race of people do you think that applies to?

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It was written while in subjugation to the Assyrians/Persians and should be considered within that context

Composition history[edit]​

The historical background to the book's composition is seen in the following general terms:[48]

  • In the late 8th century BCE both Judah and Israel were vassals of Assyria. Israel rebelled and was destroyed c.722 BCE. Refugees fleeing to Judah brought with them a number of new traditions (new to Judah, at least). One of these was that the god Yahweh, already known and worshiped in Judah, was not merely the most important of the gods, but the only god who should be served. This outlook influenced the Judahite landowning ruling class, which became extremely powerful in court circles after placing the eight-year-old Josiah on the throne following the murder of his father, Amon of Judah.
  • By the eighteenth year of Josiah's reign, Assyrian power was in rapid decline, and a pro-independence movement gathered strength in the court. This movement expressed itself in a state theology of loyalty to Yahweh as the sole god of Israel. With Josiah's support, they launched a full-scale reform of worship based on an early form of Deuteronomy 5–26, which takes the form of a covenant between Judah and Yahweh to replace that between Judah and Assyria. This covenant was formulated as an address by Moses to the Israelites (Deuteronomy 5:1)
  • The next stage took place during the Babylonian captivity. The destruction of the Kingdom of Judah by Babylon in 586 BCE and the end of kingship was the occasion of much reflection and theological speculation among the Deuteronomistic elite, now in exile in the city of Babylon. The disaster was supposedly Yahweh's punishment of their failure to follow the law, and so they created a history of Israel (the books of Joshua through Kings) to illustrate this.
  • At the end of the Exile, when the Persians agreed that the Jews could return and rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, chapters 1–4 and 29–30 were added and Deuteronomy was made the introductory book to this history, so that a story about a people about to enter the Promised Land became a story about a people about to return to the land. The legal sections of chapters 19–25 were expanded to meet new situations that had arisen, and chapters 31–34 were added as a new conclusion.
Virtually all secular scholars (and most of Christian and Jewish scholars) reject the traditional Mosaic authorship of Deuteronomy and date the book much later, between the 7th and 5th centuries BCE.[49] Its authors were probably the Levite caste, collectively referred to as the Deuteronomist, whose economic needs and social status it reflects.[50]

Chapters 12–26, containing the Deuteronomic Code, are the earliest section.[51] Since the idea was first put forward by W.M.L de Wette in 1805, most scholars have accepted that this core was composed in Jerusalem in the 7th century BCE in the context of religious reforms advanced by King Josiah (reigned 641–609 BCE),[52] although some have argued for a later date, either during the Babylonian captivity (597–539 BCE) or the Persian period(539–332 BCE).[53][54] The second prologue (Ch. 5–11) was the next section to be composed, and then the first prologue (Ch. 1–4); the chapters following 26 are similarly layered.[51]

remember the books of moses are definitely legal code, but the origins are obscure for a reason. As I've said to you and others, meditate on the word but do your best to not judge it.
 

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why do you say that? do you lack glory?


this all you are really saying, whats different between your stance and rappers peddling death to their oppositions? Your reflection is what sickens you unless you not black at all :mjpls:
No. Why give all the glory to someone/something else but you had the free will and capacity to make the decision yourself? Don’t you deserve some glory and praise?
 
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I’m a Taoist and the Greeks make more sense have studied lots of religions-with scholars Divinity grads and monks galore-some are pure cults and also harmful adherents are the fastest way to drive me away. Many are haplessly clueless and follow stupid things they don’t know about nor the historical context
In which it flourished. Aquinas and the scholars are interesting however.

A church is beneficial for its power and relative insular status from laws and rules but not it’s values and I do not give money.

Sky Daddy is not going to smite your opps or pain away. Nor will the bottle or drugs.

@Yinny what do the Taoists and Greeks believe and how do they make more sense than Christianity?
 
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