Why did the XFL fail?
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All safeties should have been allowed to use Sweet Chin Music to take down ball carries and sack QBs on blitzes
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philly.
marketed as the Xtreme Football League and it was, in fact, NOT extreme.
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
nah he just looks like a bloated mexican really
Busby
Real name no gimmicks..
THIS..they STAYED clowning him. Matter a fact, every sports outlet just
during EVERY game....
Prince Akeem
Its not that deep breh....
a business handed down from his pops, talent raided from territories.Attitude era was case of copying the comp and rolling with russo's idea's.Now when the smoke has cleared his wrestling business is irrelevant..Even his wwe films aint making noise despite its biggest star leading most their movies
a business handed down from his pops, talent raided from territories.Attitude era was case of copying the comp and rolling with russo's idea's.Now when the smoke has cleared his wrestling business is irrelevant..Even his wwe films aint making noise despite its biggest star leading most their movies
Damn, maybe it wasn't Vince's genius
Sig'd
1. They messed up by not having training camps.They just put together teams and just basically had a few practices and threw them out there in week 1....therefore the product was awful for the first 3 weeks.
This was one of the biggest things. All the teams looked bad in the beginning and I remember a month in, they had a commercial featuring a cheerleader talking about "we made changes, we did this and that, please come back" because the ratings dived all the way down.
HOWEVER:
2 things from the XFL that did change the game
1. They were the FIRST to use a moving overhead camera
2. They introduced cameras in the locker room at halftime and since then, other leagues have opened up some of the secrecy of locker rooms. Before that, any locker room video was rare.
It failed because there was pretty much no demand for an alternative to the NFL in the first place. And the people who complain about the NFL already just watch COLLEGE football anyway, There was no need for the XFL. People watched for the 1st week, laughed then went on with their lives. It was a good look for a few players that got NFL jobs after that XFL season tho.
a business handed down from his pops, talent raided from territories.Attitude era was case of copying the comp and rolling with russo's idea's.Now when the smoke has cleared his wrestling business is irrelevant..Even his wwe films aint making noise despite its biggest star leading most their movies
There's people who had businesses handed down from their parents that drove them into the ground. Vince took his father's business from being the biggest company on the upper East Coast and made it the biggest wrestling company period. Far as the talent... everybody comes from somewhere. Half the people that were "raided" didn't start where they were before they got "stolen" either. Attitude Era was definitely a lot of "stolen" ideas... but you seriously gonna say it was all Russo? If Russo was that great, he wouldn't have been a flop everywhere else he went.
At the end of the day, when people think of businessmen who did the most in wrestling, the first name that comes up is gonna be McMahon 9 times outta 10. Anyone else you bring up either lost their company, drove it into bankruptcy, or got fired by people higher up than them. If Vince is just some guy that got lucky... that's a lot of fukkin' "luck".
That said, Vince's thing is wrestling, and wrestling only. WWE has been good at taking outside things and incorporating them into wrestling... not venturing outside of wrestling to do other shyt. That's where he fails. Nobody wants to hear music on Smackdown Records
, nobody's filing into the movies to watch a WWE Film, and nobody's tuning in to watch a bunch of rejected NFL players play in the XFL. Even tho' it was kinda idiotic the levels people went to when talking about the XFL (cause honestly, how much shyt in football can you REALLY stage... a pass still has to be caught) it had a WWF-type presentation and a lot of shyt that should have been completely separated from it if he wanted it to be taken seriously. So it flopped, because the truth is Vince can't do anything without incorporating that element into it... that's what he's always been natural at, and all the other stuff was side projects at best.
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
the majority of them were the kings/princes of their small pond, as soon as they had the machine behind them that was it, truth or false?
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lol at puttin words in my mouth, did I say it was 100% russo or that he was great? attitude era was lightening in a bottle stuff.Russo and his team penned ideas and vince played filter, big woop.
And?
there are always going to be small upstarts but in the annals of time how many orgs have had the luxury of X amount of years of brand recognition (that their daddy made possible) and financial backing to go large?.Not even wcw had that..The failings of all the other promoters was self inflicted one way or the other.We are seeing the same thing in mma with ufc.Its a well oiled machine with the luxury of casino and shiek $$$ but all the boneheads that have tried to get a slice of the pie shot themselves in the foot goin dolo..
Its a niche form of entertainment and by hook or crook the one with the most $ will stand the test of time..Just because vince had a great headstart and has managed to stay afloat on the backs of exploited employees I mean independent contractors.Doesnt make him the genius, hes just an sleazy oppurtunist who is getting exposed like a gaping a$$hole now
the majority of them were the kings/princes of their small pond, as soon as they had the machine behind them that was it, truth or false?
there are always going to be small upstarts but in the annals of time how many orgs have had the luxury of X amount of years of brand recognition (that their daddy made possible) and financial backing to go large?.Not even wcw had that..The failings of all the other promoters was self inflicted one way or the other.We are seeing the same thing in mma with ufc.Its a well oiled machine with the luxury of casino and shiek $$$ but all the boneheads that have tried to get a slice of the pie shot themselves in the foot goin dolo..
Its a niche form of entertainment and by hook or crook the one with the most $ will stand the test of time..Just because vince had a great headstart and has managed to stay afloat on the backs of exploited employees I mean independent contractors.Doesnt make him the genius, hes just an sleazy oppurtunist who is getting exposed like a gaping a$$hole now
If someone else was as good at the business, they would've done just as well for just as long. Simple as that. WWF in the early, early 80s was no more or less popular than the NWA was. Jim Crockett was running his daddy's business too, was he not?
Far as the stars that were "raided" from other companies... obviously they were popular already, why would a company wanna acquire another company's unover talent? And if a person could be a national and possibly international star as opposed to being a regional star, why wouldn't they take the opportunity? I don't think that was any more a "raid" than any other wrestling company that secured stars from other places. That's why I said everybody comes from somewhere- very few stars in any of those companies were strictly homegrown. They came from other places before they got to the place Vince got them from, and some of them had even already been in the WWF before (i.e. Hogan). That's what happened when there were a bunch of different companies... people moved around, got better offers, got better pushes, tried to get over elsewhere because it wasn't working out where they were, etc. How's it just a raid when he did it? If NWA or AWA could've gotten Hogan or Savage from Vince in the late-80s, you don't think they would've?
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
vkm's track record of bullshyt low quality.
vkm's defiance to the media outlets.
created nuffin but a laughing stock waiting to happen.
plus he ruined the draw of the wwf for it as well.
on top of errant meglomania booking that marginalized his main product as well.
what he should have done was patented the production innovations.
as the nfl stole every higher quality wwf/xfl production product it could and hid their hands.
nfl looks exactly like an hd version of a xfl game now.
art barr
vkm's defiance to the media outlets.
created nuffin but a laughing stock waiting to happen.
plus he ruined the draw of the wwf for it as well.
on top of errant meglomania booking that marginalized his main product as well.
what he should have done was patented the production innovations.
as the nfl stole every higher quality wwf/xfl production product it could and hid their hands.
nfl looks exactly like an hd version of a xfl game now.
art barr