Why did the redpill and manosphere movement fail? Boys are falling further behind according to study.

Roid Jones

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Redpill/Manosphere is filled with grifters looking to exploit young men, while men still need a space and advocates the way it is currently constructed is not the way to go.

Society at large has truly failed young men and the seeds for this were planted years ago and it will only get worse. I don't see how you can deprive boys of the tools needed to become men then chastise them for it.
 

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In general, I despise internet talking heads, but in my quest to better understand black maga, and overall disillusioned and dissaffected black men in America, this brother makes some solid points. My son just turned 15 and I'm terrified of his future. I personally have a good career, but I can't pass that down. All I can do is instill in him a good work ethic, and hopefully pass down a little something to give him a running headstart.



Props to you, boys have to mentored and nurtured into becoming men it has been this way for centuries. Too many are not equipped to carry out this role and some think this is something that just magically happens :francis:
 

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Luckily we're seeing scholars trying to help boys and men out.


Jonathan Haidt
Richard Reeves
Scott Galloway

Others are helping.


Any of y'all members of the 100 black men foundation?
 

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The reason men go scorched earth is because they are quite literally expendable if they aren't good enough, as where women always have value in their ability to give birth and their femininity in misogynistic societies

That's why women crash out much less than men do, that's my theory.
I 100% agree with your theory.

Human society is similar to The Lion Kingdom. If a male lion is too weak, he is useless. He will not be able to mate, nor will he be able to eat (no other lion will hunt for him). He is cast out to die by himself.

As a man, if you cannot provide/produce any tangible contributions to society then you are considered useless and will be cast aside. Nobody is coming to save you.

The harsh realities of life :manny:
 

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Bc how did we even get to a point where anything dealing with masculinity is tabbed as “red pill”. As someone from a strict African traditional household I laugh at basic man shyt that I’ve known since a kid now deemed as “red pill”

So the answer is you kneegas started listening to women. Adopting their viewpoints, being afraid to disagree with them. They have run amuck. Redpill was attempting to correct that but a) it turned radical and b) the conditioning was so deep that women no longer had to do the work men will do it for them. You have men calling other men red pill. :scust: Loose women beg for ‘men to call out other men’ for THEIR bad choices——and yall actually started doing it:heh:
I used to hear Men say “women don’t allow us…” and would be utterly :picard:.. what do you mean “allow”? What legal authority does another regular human have to where you can’t do as you please as long as it doesn’t seriously impact others?

Having a backbone is missing. One where you can have a strong different opinion and still respect the views of others is a lost art.
 

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another thing:

the gender wars to me are starting to turn into a civil war.

There is a starch divide on brehs who call out foolishness and brehs who are just mules for whatever narrative is trending.

A lot of frustration and anger that is directed at women needs to be directed at the other men who are dragging us down.
 

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I used to hear Men say “women don’t allow us…” and would be utterly :picard:.. what do you mean “allow”? What legal authority does another regular human have to where you can’t do as you please as long as it doesn’t seriously impact others?

Having a backbone is missing. One where you can have a strong different opinion and still respect the views of others is a lost art.

Facts. There’s a video I need to find and make a thread on. It’s from the 60s/70s. Talking about how black women can essentially neuter black men, intentionally or unintentionally. It’s a black man talking to a black woman and it plays exactly like the gender war bullshyt today. She says ‘it’s just the way we are, if you let us have our way we gon take advantage. Even if we don’t want to we just have to, its our nature’.
 
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