Why did the redpill and manosphere movement fail? Boys are falling further behind according to study.

[Fani Willis fan]

Social media has enabled women to leverage their sexual power more effectively. The manosphere lost its battle to an average chick with a cute picture. While dudes are watching hours of content every day on how to pick up women, the women are studying for jobs cause they dont need classes and bootcamps to figure out how to get men

This is it.
The manopshere can’t compete with the below average chick that happens to have a bubble butt. She can make a social media profile , monetize herself and leverage that into a digital marketing platform once enough eyes are there. As soon as she gets access to the “666” nikka that becomes her new standard.

Some people in the manosphere/redpill space have realized that’s its futile to try and reign women back into “tradcon” gender roles. Men should pivot into looking for trade offs, some men should hold off on getting a woman and figure out how to become a productive member of society first.

 

[ThatTruth777]

Was there some program being funded within that vein or something?

 

[Lemons]

No wonder school shootings are skyrocketing. Bashing men has a breaking point, and people need to realize that if you teach anyone that their future is pointless, they will go scorched earth to end the structure.

Women have been LEGALLY subjugated in the Western world up until the 70s (women could not own bank accounts in America, nor open a line of credit without a male co-signer). Since we became a governed society, women had to fight for their rights. When did they scorch the earth?

I mean, right now, women are banned from society in Afghanistan. Why aren’t they burning down the earth in bitterness?

Society has told women they are LESS than the man, inferior, dumber, useless, and only good for reproduction for ages and yet women have never took it upon themselves to react like this.

What gives? What’s your theory?

 

[KidJSoul]

Women have been LEGALLY subjugated in the Western world up until the 70s (women could not own bank accounts in America, nor open a line of credit without a male co-signer). Since we became a governed society, women had to fight for their rights. When did they scorch the earth?

I mean, right now, women are banned from society in Afghanistan. Why aren’t they burning down the earth in bitterness?

Society has told women they are LESS than the man, inferior, dumber, useless, and only good for reproduction for ages and yet women have never took it upon themselves to react like this.

What gives? What’s your theory?

The reason men go scorched earth is because they are quite literally expendable if they aren't good enough, as where women always have value in their ability to give birth and their femininity in misogynistic societies

That's why women crash out much less than men do, that's my theory.

 

[Ski Mask]

Alot of these dudes are stuck in the anger phase thanks in part to the grifters, instead of taking the info and either improve themselves to get the girl that they want, or focus on something else if they got the short end of the stick, they rather bytch and laugh at onlyfans hoes.

 

[Rick Fox at UNC]

Article is confusing, as are the statistics.

I tend to ask myself a few questions before taking stuff like this seriously. Just looking at my own friend groups...

- Friend #1 works in tech, his girl goes from thing to thing, she is now "back in school." No kids.
- His brother in law (married to his sister), works in tech, the sister is always bouncing between things. No kids.
- Friend #2 works in government, his wife is a stay at home mom. Same with his ex-wife who is now married to a professor.
- Friend #3 works in academia, his wife is a stay at home mom (though at one time she was bringing in more income then he was).
- Friend #4 works in sales, his girl does something like, "teaching yoga." She's about to be a stay at home mom though.
- Friend #5 works in finance, his girl looks sexy and cooks. I think she works with kids from time to time.

Quite a few of my friends work in engineering or tech, their girls be working as dental assistants in Orange County, stuff like this.

To be fair, I know some women who are killing it at work, but yea. This article just seems bogus to me. I'm not sure what industry you're looking at where more women are participating than men, but just ask yourself how reasonable that sounds.

Tech, finance, engineering, and sales...not the case.

Construction, HVAC, plumbing, etc....not the case.

Maybe, like I said, dental assistants, teachers, and fast food...maybe.

 

[Wild self]

It’s a whole lot of bullshyt ass opinions in this thread and not only that I see yall focus more on “manosphere” versus the actually content of the article

But whatever fact of the matter is boys have been abandoned for decades and this is the result, a lot of you old ass nikkas want to point fingers calling mfs lazy and telling em to trades and shyt like that

Where was yall at to train these boys, where was yall at explaining and training boys for trades, boys for decades haven’t been trained to be shyt except street nikkas or maybe athletes if they showed promise and that’s what we got this shyt ain’t hard to see

Now you got a bunch of lost mfs who don’t know where to go

Blame the American schools and their outdated, rigid Prussian style of learning where high-stakes standardized testing is everything.

 

[Wild self]

Because it became overrun with grifters.All the people who genuinely gave a damn got lost in the wash.

Yeah, PUA of yesteryear were about life changing results by changing your speech pattern, moving slowly and more assertively, being firm with your dignity, changing your fashion style and wardrobe, and so on. These grifters of today are about stagnation and leaving Gen Z men angry and unproductive.

 

[TEH]

The red pill idea didn't work because it doesn't help you build real connections. In the end, it didn't get the results you wanted which is p*ssy.

 

[Wild self]

Women can have those shytty Corporate jobs.

Who wants to deal with Corporate politics and the constant threat of layoffs.

I have to agree. Corporate jobs be firing (black) men at a drop of a hat over a disagreement. Not even the quality of the work, but just a simple viewpoint. Those corporate jobs rather hire a bunch of materialistic women that will do anything not to move with physical work and just sit there, paying them slightly above average salaries so they will tolerate BS and never question (corrupt) authority.

 

[Wild self]

LOL at the headline.

Anyway, this has been a topic since 2010.

The End of Men

For years, women’s progress has been cast as a struggle for equality. But what if equality isn’t the end point?

www.theatlantic.com

^This is the thing that has gotten the elites too talk about it, but folks have always known that

1. Girls are better at school
2. School leads to white collar jobs
3. The economy was moving away from production jobs and into service jobs (white collar)

So none of this is surprising.

What a lot of folks don't realize - there are not enough jobs out there - where a man - living a major metropolitan area - can get an apartment, a nice car, and have enough money to holla at these broads.

Part of that is those jobs don't exist for men without degrees. Lotta skilled labor got moved from the midwest/northeast/cali to the south, moved overseas, automated, or you're competing with local lower priced labor.

And for jobs with degrees - cats, en masse, are not competing with girls that have better GPAs, better Degrees, Better schools, more organized, do better follow ups, have larger social networks, better at socializing, etc. (nobody wants to talk about what happens when females get the big jobs...but I digress)

Fulfilled by Amazon, Drop Shipping, Social Media Management, Forex, Day Trading, Tax Lien Investing, Crypto Currency, the uptick in generally low paying Truck Driving, Be Your Own Boss - is a direct result of that.

And so is the manosphere.

If you were only more ALPHA, you're life would be better. More chicks and more dollars.

The expectations for men are cartoonish and unrealistic these days. They want men to be these smooth charming James St Patrick from Power type dudes with street edge, have loads of disposable income like a scammer, being skilled in numerous STEM fields ala Tony Stark, while having bodies of Greek Gods and professional athletes. Most young men of Gen Z feel burnt out even thinking about it, and not do anything in return.

 

[Wild self]

Many male employers hire with their d*ck and many women hire non-threatening women they can be chatty patty with is the number one reason. Everyone can see this happening in real life but researchers and mainstream will never say it because it's hard to quantify and it goes against the doctrine of women working themselves to independence by outcompeting men on merit.

Which causes endless conflict between genders and relationships.

 

[Lemons]

The reason men go scorched earth is because they are quite literally expendable if they aren't good enough, as where women always have value in their ability to give birth and their femininity in misogynistic societies

That's why women crash out much less than men do, that's my theory.

What’s stopping them from being “good enough”?

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

It was built from white males being upset that white girls were getting with black dudes. Of course it was going to fail

 

[CrimsonTider]

It's probably a social status/ego thing. A woman who works an okay job is still desirable, but a man who works an "okay job" is no longer desirable?

So men would rather not even try to get an "okay job"? It why men are more susceptible to get rich scenes and crypto scams.

Go outside