Why can't Kendrick show and prove?

[Formerly Black Trash]

Y'all can sit here and pretend like my bias prevents me from liking anything Kendrick does, and that his Illmatic-level music is only accessible to 'instrument-playing music lovers', but all that is guess-work and inconsistent

I've shytTED on Future and I still do. But you know what? He has this:



which I play all the fukking time! So how come my 'bias' against Future allowed me to love one of his tracks but somehow doesn't apply to Duckworth?

I've shytted on Drizzy here and there, and I still think he's a pop rapper, but dude has 10 Bands, Started From The Bottom, Know Yourself, 0 to 100... genuine hip hop bangers. QM or no QM.

Where are these undeniable Kendrick songs? They don't exist. He's that wack, and his production is that dull. When he does get the occasional good beat, his whole delivery lacks confidence and flavor. Dude's off-beat and rhythm-less. Just

Lupe part deux (and I never liked Lupe)

The answer is you're not going to like every artist.

Kendrick isn't even a pop artist IMO.

A pop artist wouldn't have made butterfly

 

[NoChillJones]

What prevented you from santaning before?

Just say you're too shook to answer the question and leave it at that.

Now Im back at work, its like this bruh. The album has political undertones, from the first track to basically the last track, while the album is a more of a letter by himself to himself he doesn't stray away from the state of black people in America and how it directly affects him. Wesley's theory in where he preaches the importance of fiscal responsibility and how the government basically looks at black Americans as irresponsible cash cows, but he also talks about when he started he just wanted to get as much as he could and blow it, but now he realizes that he was only participating in the stereotype of black Americans with money and how he changed his thought process. With For Free he also spoke on how people who are on his dikk, the women, fake friends, labels all looking at him for what he could offer him, but his gift, talent, kindness isn't free.

Its not even hard to follow this album and that's what sad. Its as much abstract as some of his previous efforts, but his willingness to basically combine so many different genre's of music together to make one solidified sound is what is most impressive about TPAB. Its not for everyone, but to say he didn't show and prove and to use some mediocre Future as your example of why he has yet to do that is retarded. The whole thread is redundant to be honest. I am a Kendrick fan, but I am no ones stan, I feel of all the new artist out today there are a handful who care about more then just rapping over some A typical beat with no meaning or purpose and Kendrick is one of them. If that's too complex for simple minded nikkas like yourself, or not dark enough like ASAP Rocky then so be it. But his music is much more then some bullshyt effort that last 2 and half minutes.

 

[BAMBINO]

 

[IrateMastermind]

nah. why

the way you describe music is different to me.

Example, a fan watches a game of football and sees it as pure entertainment. A football player watches a game and analyzes it. They study the game.

To me, your questioning isn't casual. Its analytical. Like you make a living doing it or you're very passionate.

The casual fan listens to an artist and hates or loves the music and keeps it moving. Never really questioning why. They just do.

The reason kendrick lamar has classic albums is because the casual fans say so. Those in the industry or the very passionate fans understand nuance a little better and can see his music may be lacking in areas other don't.

Just like the casual fan will say Richard Sherman or Patrick Peterson are the best corners in the league ignoring scheme fit while others know Darrelle Revis is because of his skill set.

 

[SirBiatch]

Now Im back at work, its like this bruh. The album has political undertones, from the first track to basically the last track, while the album is a more of a letter by himself to himself he doesn't stray away from the state of black people in America and how it directly affects him. Wesley's theory in where he preaches the importance of fiscal responsibility and how the government basically looks at black Americans as irresponsible cash cows, but he also talks about when he started he just wanted to get as much as he could and blow it, but now he realizes that he was only participating in the stereotype of black Americans with money and how he changed his thought process. With For Free he also spoke on how people who are on his dikk, the women, fake friends, labels all looking at him for what he could offer him, but his gift, talent, kindness isn't free.

Its not even hard to follow this album and that's what sad. Its as much abstract as some of his previous efforts, but his willingness to basically combine so many different genre's of music together to make one solidified sound is what is most impressive about TPAB. Its not for everyone, but to say he didn't show and prove and to use some mediocre Future as your example of why he has yet to do that is retarded. The whole thread is redundant to be honest. I am a Kendrick fan, but I am no ones stan, I feel of all the new artist out today there are a handful who care about more then just rapping over some A typical beat with no meaning or purpose and Kendrick is one of them. If that's too complex for simple minded nikkas like yourself, or not dark enough like ASAP Rocky then so be it. But his music is much more then some bullshyt effort that last 2 and half minutes.

what you've basically done is santana a response that says "both" to cover your ass. "For Free" is straightforward. What you said about Wesley's Theory needs receipts. There's very little analysis here. Where are the specifics? the lines, the music notes/feel that back up what you're saying?

Keep pretending like SirBiatch isn't one of/if not the most analytical poster on The Coli.

the way you describe music is different to me.

Example, a fan watches a game of football and sees it as pure entertainment. A football player watches a game and analyzes it. They study the game.

To me, your questioning isn't casual. Its analytical. Like you make a living doing it or you're very passionate.

The casual fan listens to an artist and hates or loves the music and keeps it moving. Never really questioning why. They just do.

The reason kendrick lamar has classic albums is because the casual fans say so. Those in the industry or the very passionate fans understand nuance a little better and can see his music may be lacking in areas other don't.

Just like the casual fan will say Richard Sherman or Patrick Peterson are the best corners in the league ignoring scheme fit while others know Darrelle Revis is because of his skill set.

Yeah. I'm super passionate about hip hop. I should join the industry. I don't know in what capacity tho. I'd write reviews or work in artist development (which I'm told doesn't exist anymore)

 

[TransJenner]

the way you describe music is different to me.

Example, a fan watches a game of football and sees it as pure entertainment. A football player watches a game and analyzes it. They study the game.

To me, your questioning isn't casual. Its analytical. Like you make a living doing it or you're very passionate.

The casual fan listens to an artist and hates or loves the music and keeps it moving. Never really questioning why. They just do.

The reason kendrick lamar has classic albums is because the casual fans say so. Those in the industry or the very passionate fans understand nuance a little better and can see his music may be lacking in areas other don't.

Just like the casual fan will say Richard Sherman or Patrick Peterson are the best corners in the league ignoring scheme fit while others know Darrelle Revis is because of his skill set.

 

[IrateMastermind]

I wouldn't say he does although I like his music, a lot. But some say he does. And to them, they're classics.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

a) You're telling me every single Drake banger has a ghostwriter? Receipts!!!!!

b) You're missing the point. You don't listen to ghostwriters. You listen to the end product: the music.

Drake haters ramble about QM because they know Drake's killing their favorites on the music tip, and it hurts their souls.





cmon breh. Drake's bangers are like Illmatic compared to what Meek and Big Sean are doing. It's not even close. The beat selection, the artist approach... cmon.

You can't deny Sean has been involved in some of the biggest bangers since 2010 though..

Only one beating him with bangers is Drake...and Sean washes Drake on any features they have together. Sean just plays around with flows so damn easily at this point...and he finally got a complete album.

 

[TransJenner]

I wouldn't say he does although I like his music, a lot. But some say he does. And to them, they're classics.

imo GKMC could've been a undisputed classic if he took off Compton and that pharrell track


I still can't fuxk even Kendrick after he made The Recipe a bonus track

 

[Cynic]

@SirBiatch can't convince himself that Kendrick is good then why should y'all ?

He's literally struggling to grasp the praise for Kendrick because he can't step outside himself

Yet he expect other posters to use his standards to convince him otherwise


and y'all fall for it everytime

 

[Mikael Blowpiff]

The people outside rap that praised TPAB, did they praise the musical direction or the lyrics? The content or the actual execution how he spoke on that content?

 

[blizzard man]

Y'all can sit here and pretend like my bias prevents me from liking anything Kendrick does, and that his Illmatic-level music is only accessible to 'instrument-playing music lovers', but all that is guess-work and inconsistent

I've shytTED on Future and I still do. But you know what? He has this:



which I play all the fukking time! So how come my 'bias' against Future allowed me to love one of his tracks but somehow doesn't apply to Duckworth?

I've shytted on Drizzy here and there, and I still think he's a pop rapper, but dude has 10 Bands, Started From The Bottom, Know Yourself, 0 to 100... genuine hip hop bangers. QM or no QM.

Where are these undeniable Kendrick songs? They don't exist. He's that wack, and his production is that dull. When he does get the occasional good beat, his whole delivery lacks confidence and flavor. Dude's off-beat and rhythm-less. Just

Lupe part deux (and I never liked Lupe)

why are you looking to us to explain why you prefer what you do, musically? why do we have to explain how you feel about something?

sounds like this is something you need to work out yourself, and stop trying to blame others or ask us for reasons why you dont like shyt. we dont care, breh.

you dont like kendrick? thats cool, im sure he will still be able to make music, raise his family and sleep at night.

 

[IrateMastermind]

imo GKMC could've been a undisputed classic if he took off Compton and that pharrell track


I still can't fuxk even Kendrick after he made The Recipe a bonus track

I agree. GKMC was his best chance at a classic. I don't hold bonus tracks against an artist just like I wouldn't hold answers to bonus questions against a student on homework. But Compton was although "Good kid" was

 

[BabyFaceKillahh]

you couldve bumped one of you many other i hate kendrick threads...

 

[erker]

Now Im back at work, its like this bruh. The album has political undertones, from the first track to basically the last track, while the album is a more of a letter by himself to himself he doesn't stray away from the state of black people in America and how it directly affects him. Wesley's theory in where he preaches the importance of fiscal responsibility and how the government basically looks at black Americans as irresponsible cash cows, but he also talks about when he started he just wanted to get as much as he could and blow it, but now he realizes that he was only participating in the stereotype of black Americans with money and how he changed his thought process. With For Free he also spoke on how people who are on his dikk, the women, fake friends, labels all looking at him for what he could offer him, but his gift, talent, kindness isn't free.

Its not even hard to follow this album and that's what sad. Its as much abstract as some of his previous efforts, but his willingness to basically combine so many different genre's of music together to make one solidified sound is what is most impressive about TPAB. Its not for everyone, but to say he didn't show and prove and to use some mediocre Future as your example of why he has yet to do that is retarded. The whole thread is redundant to be honest. I am a Kendrick fan, but I am no ones stan, I feel of all the new artist out today there are a handful who care about more then just rapping over some A typical beat with no meaning or purpose and Kendrick is one of them. If that's too complex for simple minded nikkas like yourself, or not dark enough like ASAP Rocky then so be it. But his music is much more then some bullshyt effort that last 2 and half minutes.

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