Why can't folks be honest? I think Flo Jo was a roid head

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Her body changed.

She wasn't anywhere near as diesel in 84' as she became in 88'...and along with it came the world records.

IIRC she hid herself from competition for the whole of 88 and only did the trials and olympics that year then retired. + in 89 random doping was comin into effect.
 

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Carl Lewis was my hero as a youngster but dude was on the juice.

About 6 of the 8 finalists in Seoul 88 got
busted at some point for juicing, Lewis being one of them. His explanation was deemed to be plausible though.

I was watching a doc just before the Olympics on Ben Johnson and that final and even now...Lewis is salty as fukk. Lewis got the gold and Johnson was confined to history as a drug cheat, but he still seemed have not let that thing go. IMO its because they were both on the juice but Johnson was the better runner from '87 onwards and that fukked with him.

Another tell tale sign lies braces. If you see any of these grown ass athletes with them on, something's up. Got dropped the jewel on this and was like :wtf:

Elaborate.....
 

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IIRC she hid herself from competition for the whole of 88 and only did the trials and olympics that year then retired. + in 89 random doping was comin into effect.


:ohhh:

:smh:

I'm still laughing at someone who said she was "beasting" prior to 88.

NO....she wasn't.
 

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No she wasn't!!! She won the silver in 200 at the 87' track and field World ships and won the gold in the Relay.

She wasn't "beasting" prior to 88'. She came outta nowhere.

Oh....my bad....I just can't accuse someone of something without any solid proof...especially if they can back it up....her body changed, maybe she had a new diet....she improved her times, maybe she trained harder....I know it sounds ridiculous but it can be backed up......
 

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Carl Lewis was my hero as a youngster but dude was on the juice.

About 6 of the 8 finalists in Seoul 88 got
busted at some point for juicing, Lewis being one of them. His explanation was deemed to be plausible though.

I was watching a doc just before the Olympics on Ben Johnson and that final and even now...Lewis is salty as fukk. Lewis got the gold and Johnson was confined to history as a drug cheat, but he still seemed have not let that thing go. IMO its because they were both on the juice but Johnson was the better runner from '87 onwards and that fukked with him.

Another tell tale sign lies braces. If you see any of these grown ass athletes with them on, something's up. Got dropped the jewel on this and was like :wtf:

Even tho Ben Johnson is a disgraceful cheat (to get caught twice is jsut :snoop:, he was also made the scapegoat for all the drug cheats that got away with it before him. Maybe it was because he was running for Canada and they wouldnt kick up much of a fuss probably as it was still the Cold War era back then it had to be someone else especially after the last 2 Olympics didnt have all the best competitors and would of been too much of an international incident otherwise.

THe US doping records that came out in the 2000's shows Lewis failed 3 tests before the 88 Olympics, but as he was by far the biggest trackstar they covered it up.

Just thinkin about if Flo Jo did get caught in 88, what would of happened if the 2 fastest people on earth both failed test at the same time, people would of been thrown in the bushes and outrage.

so would say the real Cold War was takin place out on the track and swimmin pools in the 80's

The East Germans were fukked as soon as that Wall came down and when the whistle blowers back in the early 90's said yeah they got recorded documents of who took what and what the doseage was for them all goin back to the 70's
 

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Dog...I'm not going to go back into the 80's and give a blow by blow account of everything. I saw her grow from 87' to 88'.....fukk four years. She didn't even medal in the 87' Track and Field world championships in the 100 meters and won silver in the 200.

And for mastermind:



:rudy:

First it was 4 years and now its she grew in one year? Make up your mind on what your argument is going to be, and a year is more than enough time for a professional athlete to change their body and improve performance. Its not impossible, and from what I can recall it wasn't a significant jump in performance either.

Lets put it this way, she NEVER tested positive, no one in her circle has ever hinted at her taking anything, someone likely would have tried to cash in on a book deal by now..

and if she was juicing back in 87-88 do you think whatever it was would have been more potent than what Marion Jones had access too? Yet Marion still couldn't touch her times on her best days.

Ever so often athletes will come along and transcend the sport, it happens....15-20 years from now will we have threads that say "Lets be honest, Lebron James was on roids since high school?" etc...
 

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Elaborate.....

Basically, one of the possible side effects from juicing is a fukked up grill or worse loss of teeth.

You may have noticed Shelly Ann-Fraser and a few Jamaican girls rocking out with braces. Christine Oroughou also rocked the braces if I'm correct and she managed to avoid three tests in a row. I think she was subsequently banned (for missing the tests not drug use). Carl Lewis rocked the braces also in the 80s.
 

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Tainted Legacy Steroid Cloud Hangs Over Flo-jo, Golden Age Of Women's Track & Field - New York Daily News


Basically none of the female records set during that time have even been close to being touched

Here are some of the records that were set during the 1980s . Although the record holders came under suspicion for steroids, their performances remain the benchmarks for women's track and field :

100m: Florence Griffith-Joyner, 10.49, July 16, 1988

200m: Florence Griffith-Joyner, 21.34, Sept. 29, 1988

400m: Marita Koch, 47.60, June 10, 1985

800m: Jarmila Kratochvílová,

1:53.28, July 26, 1983

100m hurdles: Yordanka Donkova, 12.21, Aug. 8, 1988
Women's track records are untouchable... And almost all of those East German athletes died in their 40s.
Funny how the only records broken recently came from the doped up Chinese girls in the mid-90s (after they hired the former trainer of East German athletes) :snoop:
 
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Even tho Ben Johnson is a disgraceful cheat (to get caught twice is jsut :snoop:, he was also made the scapegoat for all the drug cheats that got away with it before him. Maybe it was because he was running for Canada and they wouldnt kick up much of a fuss probably as it was still the Cold War era back then it had to be someone else especially after the last 2 Olympics didnt have all the best competitors and would of been too much of an international incident otherwise.

THe US doping records that came out in the 2000's shows Lewis failed 3 tests before the 88 Olympics, but as he was by far the biggest trackstar they covered it up.

Just thinkin about if Flo Jo did get caught in 88, what would of happened if the 2 fastest people on earth both failed test at the same time, people would of been thrown in the bushes and outrage.

so would say the real Cold War was takin place out on the track and swimmin pools in the 80's

The East Germans were fukked as soon as that Wall came down and when the whistle blowers back in the early 90's said yeah they got recorded documents of who took what and what the doseage was for them all goin back to the 70's

:myman:
 

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First it was 4 years and now its she grew in one year? Make up your mind on what your argument is going to be,

AND?

I was first talking strictly Olympics. THEN I narrowed it down to the year prior when she didn't even MEDAL in the 100 meters.

That disqualifies me suddenly?

:rudy:


Lets put it this way, she NEVER tested positive, no one in her circle has ever hinted at her taking anything, someone likely would have tried to cash in on a book deal by now..

and if she was juicing back in 87-88 do you think whatever it was would have been more potent than what Marion Jones had access too? Yet Marion still couldn't touch her times on her best days.

Ever so often athletes will come along and transcend the sport, it happens....15-20 years from now will we have threads that say "Lets be honest, Lebron James was on roids since high school?" etc...

It took almost 10 years after the fact to discover the Carl Lewis roided. LIke someone said already, the East Germans were killing us up to 1987. She couldn't even get in the top 3 in 87', so she hides out in 88', comes out DIESEL as fukk, only running in the trials and in the Olympics and breaks world records in the process?

:wtf:

Even with Usain Bolt, he was gradually breaking records over the course of two years leading up to the Olympics. But I have to sit here and NOT be suspicious about a chick who was a 400 meter specialist at one time, good 200 meter runner that suddenly became a 100 meter god in one magical year before dropping the mic for good?

:shaq2:
 

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Its one thing to be suspicious, its another to flat out accuse her of juicing with no supporting evidence besides your own opinion. Good job ignoring the other points made in my post as well.
 

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I'm still laughing at someone who said she was "beasting" prior to 88.

NO....she wasn't.

:pachaha: I know its crazy, prior to 88 she was a good athlete thats it, she wasnt beasting nor was she a scrub either. She was smart on how she did it, she did it the time where it would suggest a natural progression to where she was hittin her athletic peak as a sprinter.
 
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