Why can't black artists enjoy the same success as this list?

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I noticed that black folk, when they stuck with superficial topics, have a short ass time span making money. Cats that were hot back in 2009, ain't even mentioned or remembered outside of a very few. You definitely on to something...

Even Public Enemy still tours the world. A person like Chingy is regular man status now.
Exactly bro.

Great observation.

When 2pac stepped outside the box by creating controversial music Deathrow seen the biggest profits hip-hop had ever experienced.Mainstream society was so uncomfortable with 2pac's content ,nonetheless,they still had to cover it or buy the album so they could hear what's going on in the streets.But today, these rappers are clowns popping mollies glorifying strippers and bragging about material.

Edit:Hip hop is infact dead.
 

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Exactly bro.

Great observation.

When 2pac stepped outside the box by creating controversial music Deathrow seen the biggest profits hip-hop have ever experienced.Mainstream society was so uncomfortable with 2pac's content ,nonetheless,they still had to cover it or buy the album so they could hear what's going on in the streets.but today these rappers are clowns popping mollies glorifying strippers and bragging.

Controversy matched with unforgettable music = legendary status. Cats these days are content with weak 360 tour money and Internet fame from thots, that they simp to. :scusthov: . I find out that many of these cats are happy with scraps of money and living anything beyond minimum wage. Sad how standards have plunged over time while making more "safe" music for strip clubs and European inspired clubs where bottle service is offered. Even Uncle Luke was dogging the living shyt outta hoes, but he stayed in sex tapes with them. Cats today rather harmonize with them on autotune. :dead:

People like Public Enemy and Pac made all the white folks :whoa: , but still remembered and making historical music videos and statements. Their brand is strong as ever and they never compromised their beliefs. Even people who expand beyond the c00nery sell more and have bigger tours (BigKrit, Cole, Kendrick).

Why can't people see that Simping on trap beats doesn't pay? :jbhmm:
 
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Black artists just don't get the same amount of push from the Industry. The ceiling is generally shorter.

Also I don't think we upheld the prestige of some of our black artists.

White Rock n roll, pop, and country music artists are always upheld with the highest prestige.

With some of the black r&b artists and especially the black hip hop artists not so much.:ld:
 

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Shot in the dark, but aside from the obvious cultural differences in fan bases AND how the industry works :mjpls:....

....maybe there's something to be said about instruments and how there's a decline in showmanship once you move to other genres of music. First thing that came to mind when I looked at that list after :mjpls: was that all of those people either play guitar, piano, bass, or were the frontman of a band.

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Even my boy Zack De La Rocha :salute:

A lot of those acts are bands, so in addition to the music, you get a whole visual performance that makes you respect them more (especially if you also make music) when you see them live. You get people who aren't just fans of the band itself, but people who are fans of the lead singer, the lead guitarist, drummer, bassist, so on. Bunch of different reasons to bring a bunch of different people out.

Also, it probably pays more to have a successful career selling a bunch of music that you didn't have to clear samples for. Future would probably be swimming in a bigger pool of money if he'd sat behind a piano and composed "fukk Up Some Commas", then played it live. :wow:

...or maybe DJing needs a resurgence? :yeshrug:

...or maybe bring out a bunch of synchronized dabbers :ohhh:
 

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Black artists just don't get the same amount of push from the Industry. The ceiling is generally shorter.

Also I don't think we upheld the prestige of some of our black artists.

White Rock n roll, pop, and country music artists are always upheld with the highest prestige.

With some of the black r&b artists and especially the black hip hop artists not so much.:ld:
Why uphold bull shyt?

If lyrics today were anything like the revolutionary material 2pac put out I would have no problem supporting it.however,that's not the case.Today's hip hop is bullshyt.R&B music fell off as well when compared to the 90's decade.again, when you move away from your roots, you will lose your creativity/originality.
 

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What's this list about and where is it from?

Some of it doesn't make sense to me, like how Dave Grohl, Axl Rose, and Blink 182 guys are worth that much?

Besides the black artist you mentioned, I'm sure Kanye, Lenny Kravitz, Drake, an Rihanna are worth a lot.

The list seems outdated or just inaccurate. Dre is worth a billion, Diddy is probably worth well over $500 million, Jay-Z is not too far from Diddy, and I know Beyonce is in that same tier of wealth. The Michael Jackson estate is worth well over $1 billion.
 
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Why up hold bull shyt?

If lyrics today were anything like the revolutionary material 2pac put out I would have no problem supporting it.however,that's not the case.Today's hip hop is bullshyt.R&B music fell off as well when compared to the 90's decade.again, when you move away from your roots, you will lose your creativity/originality.

It ain't always the music. I honestly believe that we tend to stop checking for certain artists after a while.

The longevity just isn't there for a lot of black artists that's been making music for the longest. They can't do big numbers like some of these white artists that's been in the game for years.

Hip hop is probably the worst at this because we tend to hop from trend to trend and some of the legends seem to not get upheld by the next generation of black fans so the prestige isn't all the way there.
 

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For every one person you have saluting these OGs, You have 10 like this lil fukkbowy OP on this thread disrespecting them:

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-booth-is-full-of-dusty-dudes-who-listen-to-tony-yayo.401393/

This mentality actually represents a huge fraction of the current shift thats happening and why many artists whom put it down can never sit down. This is the only culture where I seen nikkas can flat out publicly disrespect pioneers and nothing comes of it. Its either "Their trolling" its all jokes or giggles.
 

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1. It's more white people here and in Europe obviously. That means more sales.
2. When we "sell out" (music marketed at whites) we don't usually fukk with them too tough afterwards.
 

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We need bigger economies in black countries...that's the reason.

If Black Africa, the Carib, South American countries had the economies of the US, England, Canada, etc...black artist would reach that level.
 
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