I hold him responsible for 95% of what happened in these final 8, but I am explaining that it had to end like that. I saw he was going to live all the way back in season 4 and it just kept getting clearer as season 5 went along. He was the only character that was no longer trapped by the game...he kept getting pulled back in because of previous associations. He was sick of all that had happened and legitimately wanted out.
Why Breaking Bad had to end the way it did (SPOILERS)
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The Nazis didn't even check underneath Walt's car for Jesse when they were out in the desert. They always were portrayed as ruthless, but not exactly clean as a whistle when it came to covering all bases.
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I need to see Jesse Pinkman suffer for the rest of his life, Much like The Wire, a final compilation of a future for the main characters would've been dope...with Pinkman suffering sad and alone, he deserves it
I agree with almost everything you said especially about Hank and Marie. Although I disliked Marie's character more than Hank. For one she was a hypocrite , she was willing to let Skylar go to jail over that gift she stole and wouldn't apologize at 1st. How are you a booster and going to judge Walt for cooking meth,what are you a more righteous criminal
plus don't forget she was willing to let Skylar take the fall with Walt at 1st before they blackmailed them with that tape.
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As for Hank he was just as bad as Walt, no if ands or buts about it. Walt didn't want Hank to get killed in “Ozymandias” and was willing to turn himself in rather than what went down. The same can't be said for Hank he wasn't willing to cut Walt any breaks or even hear his side of the events same as Marie. You also can't forget the case was closed by his superiors and 90% of the tactics he used to try and catch Heinsenberg were illegal, plus whooping Walt's ass in "Blood Money" and Jesse's in season 3 being over zealous.
And Skylar I think the last ep showed that even through all that went down she still cared for Walt and really loved him. She could have ratted him out when she was on the phone with Marie and not given him the 5mins he wanted for closure. Plus you could see how she still felt for him when he saw Holly for the last time. As much of a scumbag that Skylar seemed throughout the series she did actually care for Walt but protecting her kids was 1st priority.
Are you seriously going to compare shoplifting to murder, drug producing, and drug trafficking ?
Hear Walt's side of things ? Hank was willing to talk to him when he told him the cancer was back and Walt flat out refused. And in case you didn't know, Hank's job was to catch drug dealers, not to cut him slack because his heart was in the right place.
True, but some people can't take the ending for what it was.
I think it was played out perfectly and the way the characters died made perfect sense. I can't picture the ending any other way and all loose ends were tied up nicely. It's impossible to please everyone, but this team got it right.
The case was closed by his by his superiors plus he was in a front office position his "job" was no longer to be involved in that Heinsenberg case. That was an obsession of Hank's and at the end of the day Walt was still family he could have given any information he had and stayed out of it. He wanted to personally catch Walt, he didn't want anyone else to get the credit for catching Heisenberg. Not to mention the reason he was even able to still walk is Walt paying his medical expenses. Also Hank didn't want to hear his side he wanted him to confess right then and there, he didn't care about anything else Walt had to say. He wished death Walt in that same scene
but then said that would be to easy for him.And if you read my what I said about Marie I didn't compare shoplifting to murder, I said she was being a hypocrite. Regardless if Walt's crimes are more severe, she was engaging in criminal activity herself and as a result of her actions she almost got Skylar locked up while she pregnant.
Khalil's_Black_Excellence
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A couple of things that I thought was off though, not about the finale, but some of the events leading up to it was
1. How did Hank nor Gomez not call in for back up during the shoot-out? That shyt is standard police protocol. Everything could've gone a slot smoother for them possibly or at least had the neo-nazis caught up from that alone right then and there if they would've did that.
2. How did Mike underestimate the fukk out of Todd's uncle in his background check?!
Talking about duke was just flexing when it turned out that his uncle had enough power to orchestrate one of the greatest mass assassinations in history. All of his years as a cop and a crook, he should've known better. Or was he just being facetious to Walter?
1. How did Hank nor Gomez not call in for back up during the shoot-out?
That shyt is standard police protocol. Everything could've gone a slot smoother for them possibly or at least had the neo-nazis caught up from that alone right then and there if they would've did that.2. How did Mike underestimate the fukk out of Todd's uncle in his background check?!
Talking about duke was just flexing when it turned out that his uncle had enough power to orchestrate one of the greatest mass assassinations in history. All of his years as a cop and a crook, he should've known better. Or was he just being facetious to Walter?Hank wanted all the credit and the DEA budget was officially "ZERO" right before they caught Mike's other Lawyer.A couple of things that I thought was off though, not about the finale, but some of the events leading up to it was
1. How did Hank nor Gomez not call in for back up during the shoot-out?
2. How did Mike underestimate the fukk out of Todd's uncle in his background check?!
I agree about Mike though, he was WAY off about Todd and his "connections" I mentioned that a few times in the upped thread.
Khalil's_Black_Excellence
The King of Fighters
Nah, that only explains them going out there alone, which was also made understandable due to not being able to trust the force with his story until he had concrete evidence considering the implications of the end result of the case. But ANY cop, regardless of all the other shenanigans involved, if they're getting blasted on by a gotdamn mini-militia, they call for back up. Had things not played out with tv perfection, their deaths would've went totally unsolved or even known about.
Speaking of which, you'd think that Jesse would've did that too, seeing as he was just sitting on the sidelines.
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When it's 2 vs. 10 or however many, you're thinking about surviving, plus you're not going to get backup there in time anyway. Hank's myopic need and hard on for glory contributed to his own demise. He was Walt but on the side of the police.
He got shot because Gus used him as a bargaining chip so he could continue to have Walt cook. He was part of the reason he was shot but he didn't have any direct involvement, it's not like Walt even knew that he was being targeted by those two brothers over Tuco's death. You really think that if Walt knew that he would allow Gus to put Hank's life on the line just so he could cook
Khalil's_Black_Excellence
The King of Fighters
I knew someone would reply with something like this. Started to even post my reply preemptively for it. As a cop, being out manned and outgunned, calling for back up would be paramount for their survival (or at the very least, retribution) and is pretty much standard procedure. And while I get and agree with Hank being the yang to Walt's yin, that still doesn't explain Gomez or Jesse not calling it in. They knew they were out in the middle of nowhere when shyt was going down and neither of them thought to try to alert someone else? Anyone?
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I think you are not realizing just how greedy Hank was as well.
Remember when Jesse was pouring all that gasoline on Walt's house? He specifically told Jesse that they should get Walt together, but when the plan was starting to come out he had no problem with letting Jesse possibly getting killed when they met Walt.
As far as calling for backup? I guess you can make that argument, but when you are outnumbered by so much and have your partner killed almost immediately your first instincts is to get cover. You have to remember at the very start of Ozymandias Hank was already shot...the whole thing took seconds. Jesse calling it in? First of all Jesse isn't the brightest guy in the world and second I am not sure if he still has the Hello Kitty phone in his pocket.
Now that I think about it, I am not sure Hank or Gomie even had their police radios with them so it HAD to be Jesse to call it in.
