Why Black Feminists and Liberals Don't Care When Black Men Die

[Wiles]

nikka if it wasn't for yo tongue you'd be a waste of a man. And yo daddy dikk is bigger. That's why you got such strong jaws. You can tell him to hit the line. I promise I'l be a nice stepmom.

You really got me on that one


So corny

Spoken like a true ghetto rat.

By the way My father is dead.

Im sure you will be soon too

 

[CriticalThought]

Firemen need fires, police need crime, doctors need illness...Once you understand that simple concept, it's pretty clear where their interests lie.

Take black men out of black feminists mouths who's left for them to assail without consequence and repercussion? That means no free airtime, articles in publications, no cushy "black ain't shyt articles" and the rest. It's literally their cash cow. You think they'd be allowed to talk about the white man like that? Spread seeds of dissension in the white garden and watch the fallout (they know better). The plenty only go after white women because of how their gender is treated by them or because they want that white man and believe he'll drop her for them. That's what makes it even more sinister because plenty of them are black so they know what time it is, they just chose to be traitors pure and simple. Where would they be without problems? And where no problems exist, give them time...they have to make it a problem. They know they've got more leeway to show their ass than other group of women and they take full advantage of it. People would rather stick their head in the ground like an ostrich than to acknowledge what's looking them in the face. They should have been run out or killed out a long time ago. What problems have they solved in 40 years? Exactly. They aren't here to solve problems, they're here to exacerbate them and run interference for their master. Notice how when white men catch slack for their bullshyt who comes in and magically brings up black men where there's none to be found? It happens like clockwork.

The go to answer is it's only a few of them. Typical bullshyt being peddled to rock you to sleep. Why haven't the "good" black feminists gone after the "bad" ones? They're not like that, but when do you see that push back? Pretty telling where their loyalty lies. Without producing and advocating for attitudes, policies that produce "ain't shyt black men", how else will those "ain't shyt black men" come online for them to use for the cause? Who'd be left to go after...the white man.

Personally I don't hate them (the fukked up ones). An enemy is an enemy, I can respect that they chose a side (even if it's not ours). I loathe the fence sitters, and half steppers that try to make you believe they're on your team to keep up appearances when they know what's going on better than any black man.

And white liberals at the end of the day are still white, they're flip sides to the same coin. They pretend to care but only enough to not be seen as apathetic. They do, but only enough to not rock the boat and keep their advantage. Want to really piss them off? Tell them you're a black republican and watch that vitriol fly no different than the hate that flows towards black democrats from white republicans.

 

[Gimini00]

I can't believe these guys are black men, their rhetoric sound typically like white men

 

[satam55]

I've been knowing this.

Liberals don't like men unless they're emasculated and/or gay, and black feminists don't like black men period.

They fukk with LGBT Black Men & the simp Black male feminists heavy though. If you're a black man who doesn't fit in those 2 categories, they don't like you.

 

[Remo]

"I think we need to understand the political economy of Black male death"
Yea we need to understand that people are really making a come up off this shyt and its disgusting.

 

[BigMan]

What do yall support then?

I personally support my mother

 

[BigMan]

Can y'all start separating Shea Butter feminists from Black feminism? This is no better than shea butters saying black masculinity is toxic, going off the actions of rappers and gang bangers (as if no other type of black men exsist)
My FATHER taught me to be a black feminist because he showed me how to be a strong black person, but knew I needed more to empower myself as a strong black woman.

i personally cannot tell the difference and it saddens me to think my sisters hate me

 

[jj23]

...and when I am talking liberals, I am talking about neo-liberalism.


I think we need to understand the political economy of Black male death and the class of Black liberals and Black conservatives and the class of Black men that are victimized by the state.

Prominent Black neo-liberals since Booker T. Washington and WEB Dubois have been separated from the masses of Black people. These neo-liberals reside with ruling class Whites. Those are their benefactors. Black neo-liberals benefit from the suffering of Black males cause through the suffering of Black males...they gain political power. They become advocates. Back then it was lynching and castration. Now it is Black males being murdered by police and vigilantes.

We have to remember that Booker T. Washington advocated for the submission of Black people under Southern Racist Benevolence. And WEB Dubois rebelled against that because he believed that the "Talented Tenth" of Black people need to be able to exert themselves and they cannot do that under White Supremacy. WEB Dubois did not care about working class and poor Blacks until he became a socialist and by then he was largely irrelevant. WEB Dubois to his credit came to the conclusion that the reason things do not change is because of his class of Black people that he loved to champion.

The Booker T. Washington/WEB Dubois class of Black people need the deaths of Black males therefore they need the state and White supremacy to murder Black males to justify their existence amongst the White ruling class. These Black folks represent their OWN interests.

With the raise of Black feminism we have something more sinister: the concept of Black Male Privilege. Black feminism from Bell Hooks and Michelle Wallace to the current time...justifies the deaths of Black men but relies on it too...because Black men are the face of Black suffering due to the disproportionate amount of deaths at the hand of the State. Due to the disportionate number of Black males in prison. Black women suffer, but Black males objectively suffer more.

You raise some interesting points. I would like to focus on the Booker T portion of the argument. Was his idea wrong? Was it misguided? He was hoping that blacks would have gone about building economic power in their community until they couldn't be ignored. He saw this as a smarter plan than open conflict with people in power. History proves his idea fell by the wayside anyway, as we had the civil rights movement. The liberation of the black race. Fast forward to today, and many black people are still poor (disproportionately so compared to other races) and every day brings a new injustice that shows we aren't as free from oppression as we think we are. Oh, and we still haven't empowered ourselves economically. So is the idea of quietly building economic power and influence such a bad thing? The Asians do it, hell, the Irish did it as well (don't forget that even with white skin the Irish were discriminated against), Hispanics are doing it now. These people built economic power and forced the powers that be to reckon with them. Would we be in a better position if we had done the same?

Would our community have been raised better?

Would we have been able to better handle the drug scourge in the 80's? With black leaders protecting their own and young black men in a financially secure position to know they didn't have to sell crack to their brother and sisters?

 

[Black Haven]

Can y'all start separating Shea Butter feminists from Black feminism? This is no better than shea butters saying black masculinity is toxic, going off the actions of rappers and gang bangers (as if no other type of black men exsist)
My FATHER taught me to be a black feminist because he showed me how to be a strong black person, but knew I needed more to empower myself as a strong black woman.

.Let them tell it, black men are oppressing them and using our "privilege" against them but,at the same time say black women have surpassed black men on all levels, so therefore they must date outside their race to find men that's equal or above them financially and, academically puhleeeeze.

 

[Sindicated]

The founders of BLM and most of their activist are feminist, most women who defended black men and protested for them are feminist, so i don't think black feminist doesn't care about black men, but at the same time they are suffering too from the white society and the black community, black women are facing both racism and sexism. So the black feminist movement only want to be a voice for the black women who are suffering and forgotten in our community that's all. At the end of the day, the truth is even if black women are defending black men, black men are not doing the same for black women and they are not helping us facing our challenges, so we have no other choices to fight for ourselves. So i think it's a little bit narcissitic for black men to criticze black feminists when they can't even do the effort to support and protested when a black woman is victim from racism. If the black feminist movement get shut down tomorrow, the situation of black men are not going to improve, so i don't see why they are so bothered with black feminist, white man is the problem not black feminist. Of course there are some insane people in the movement, but let's not tried to depict them as the face of the whole movement. Otherwise you're doing the same thing when a white man try to depict the black lives movement as a radical movement just because one man affliated to the cause shot a cop.

How are Black Men not defending Black Women? You cant say were are killing BW because a study released already disproved that. So what are we doing that effects BW? If anything BW are more dangerous to BM because you have female Privelage and Black Femenist and LGBT have a much louder voice then us. And all the vitrol and hate they spew can literally get us killed if anything us BM need to start avoiding BW or atleast be cautious around them. But you and other BW dont give two shyts about that you all would much rather us problematic negroes be dead anyway

 

[Sindicated]

Stop being such a fukking drama queen. Yall love to make sweeping generalizations on this site.

Its the truth go anywhere online were BW gather and its the same anti black male bullshyt, and i dont see ANY BW checking them and you cant just act like this shyt just online and dont exist irl because we said the exact same thing about white racist online, and look were we at now. The fact of the matter is until BW start checking these Black Feminist i and many other BM will have no loyalty or love for BW its to the point were I honestly view BW the same way i veiw cacs

 

[Sindicated]

Stop being such a fukking drama queen. Yall love to make sweeping generalizations on this site.

And Im still waiting on you to tell me how us BM dont defend you and how we negativly impact you as a whole.

 

[Sindicated]

But I never said that fukk shyt tho. My dad is black and he will defend me with his last breath, so that would never come outta my mouth.



But the Coli does this same shyt too. So do message boards for whites and people of other races. Men talk shyt about women, and women talk shyt about men. This shyt go back to elementary. But you taking the word of some bytches you don't even know in real life (and ACTIVELY ignoring the women that support BM online because it doesn't fit your narrative) so seriously that you view BW the same as cacs. You a fukkin race traitor and an embarrassment to your race. No better than shea butter feminists that talk shyt about BM.

My bad about the first part i thought you were the other poster but what im saying still stands,And were are all these Black Women that support us online, i sure as hell dont see them and if they exist they are a minority and are overshadowed by the massive amount of BW that hate us and the ground we walk on.

And yes the coli has its issues but to compare shyt said here to BW talking aborting BM babies, BW talking how worthless we are and how they couldnt give a shyt if we get shot dead in the streets (i even seen SOME of these disgusting hoes celebrate it) BW citing racist ws stats to demonize us and you cant say this is a rare occurence or this only represents a small minority when Black Feminist have 100k followers and get 20k likes and retweets anytime they shyt on us.

Imagine whats going to happen if they start to get mainstream exposure, thats the thing people don't realize even though Black Feminist are already big and have a huge reach they still are relatively underground and havent gotten that mainstream exposure YET. And i didnt even speak on the swirlers who created a whole MOVEMENT around dating out yet BM are the issue.

 

[Sindicated]

You know what you're experiencing is confirmation bias due to your own lack of self esteem right? I know because I was once there.

The internet allows loud minorities to have a monopoly on the narrative because ppl always pay more attention to what's "messy" then what's normal.

Everything you said I can easily flip back on you. When I was a young teen spending all my time on the internet I thought this new generation of BM by and large hated black women. And this was before the natural hair movement so it was long before the popularity of shea butter feminists. All the commentary seem to agree that black women were loud, ugly, agressive women. Even the music I listened to seemed to confirm this notion (Lil Wayne for example). I didn't see ANY BM my age actively going against these notions online. But when ur self esteem is shot, you will consciously and subconsciously seek out information to confirm your shytty feelings about yourself.

What you see on the INTERNET is NOT A REFLECTION OF REAL LIFE. Spending time away from internet I was able to meet groups of BM and BW that was all about black unity. And they have their own communities on the internet too.

If you really cared about black people, you would spend more time having conversations with like minded people so you could connect and build. Instead of actively looking up hate speech to convenience yourself that the other side doesn't exsist.

First off im not sure were the lack of self esteem comment came from, but i digress i understand what your saying but to say this isnt a reflection of real life is being naive(just like we said the racist cacs online wasnt representative of reality) i actually dont spend alot of time online im in the real world and i can tell you that this stuff is reality the college i attended was FULL of these type of Black Women im not sure how old you are but these type of Black Women are rampant in my generation.

The shyt ive seen in college honestly is enough to turn me off to BW forever and that shyt happens all over PWIs and im going to be 100 that black love/unity shyt does NOT exist in my generation. All that bieng said i personally no longer care im eating regardless black or non black. But like i said wait tell this radical Black Feminsm shyt go mainstream youll see what im talking about

 

[Sindicated]

I say you lack self esteem because you take the time to acknowledge or address ppl that purposely trying to tear you down. Do you regularly visit st0rmfr0nt and listen to what white rights advocates on your campus have to say as well?
I'm in my mid 20's and have dated black men all my life. I have always loved black men and a couple of swirling memes not about to change that. What do y'all nikkas love to say on here? Black men and women primarily marry black, so why you acting like this shyt is an epidemic?
And I can just as easily find black dudes on campuses that don't wanna be seen with anything that's not forgiven. You really trying to act like this shyt is one sided but I'm not about to let you do that.

And black love will never die as long as I'm alive.

Hopefully your right, and no i don't regularly visit st0rmfront but i do visit, just like i visit other alt right sites to keep tabs on my enemy, and i do the same thing with Black Femenist,and I beleive all BM should do the same we have to be woke and not be naive because these

Femenist are far worse then cacs because they can hide in plain site,they know how our community works, and because of their fake pro black image, they can easily manipulate us into trusting them,and if BW not checking them its sad to say but as Black Men we will have to take extra precautions when dealing with BW because these hoes are CRAZY and would do anything to see BM suffer even sleep with us just so they can accuse of rape.

I have a question if you have a son wouldnt you want him to be aware that there are Black Women out there that LITERALLY hate him to death or would you send him into the world blind?