Why aren't Jamaican Dancehall artists blowing up like spanish reggaeton artists have the past year?

[Von Clay]

Language.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

my issue is that these songs are for the Caribbean market.....its going to influence more dancehall artistes to make songs like this instead of proper dancehall

maybe it's simple as proper dancehall being stagnant/dead.

beenie man wasn't light, he was popping.
It's not colorism.
Dancehall is also "locked" into riddims with minimal variance...moreso than the worst cloned trap "type beat".
They got whole albums of one riddim.

what @Indiglow Meta (R$G) is talking about is exactly why OG reggaeton died from a mainstream POV

 

[BigMan]

maybe it's simple as proper dancehall being stagnant/dead.



what @Indiglow Meta (R$G) is talking about is exactly why OG reggaeton died from a mainstream POV

The issue is dancehall artists want to make money and go mainstream in North America but for many reasons can’t.
The producers and artists increasingly make more “American” sounding music and couple in the visa issues and the government’s lack of support and you have the present issues.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

The issue is dancehall artists want to make money and go mainstream in North America but for many reasons can’t.
The producers and artists increasingly make more “American” sounding music and couple in the visa issues and the government’s lack of support and you have the present issues.

...but this is nothing new...they did this is even in the era of what we would call classic dancehall.




The only difference now is that have to update their sounds to keep up with changing sounds of what's popping now

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Dancehall badly needs to evolve.

 

[Grizzly]

Ain't this the dumbest shyt

Real reasons are:
Post Vybz, dancehall has gotten too hardcore, and too hardcore in a way that is too culturally specific to Jamaica to resonate over here beyond an urban club level.

Dancehall in general is in a creative rut. This combined with the above has allowed for once the vulturing of dancehall music to be successfully sold back to Jamaica. American artists are filling the void for Jamaicans for bubblegum, feel good dancehall.

The world is finally paying attention to African music, and african pop and dance music is in a commercial golden era. The western mainstream audience doesn't know the difference.

The increased hardcore shift in the music years ago led to a rebirth of roots reggae. A sizable portion of the younger, talented artists grew up with a distaste for the over westernization of Jamaica music and are doubling down on the basics and making it their own again.

For the first time since the 80's, the most popular Jamaican artist isn't a dancehall artist. It's Chronixx, who doesn't make club music.

Chronixx's music is phenomenal, but it's not the sort of shyt that's going to slide into contemporary urban radio around the world inbetween stripper and opiate anthems.

So, as it stands now, Jamaican music, by and large, is not for the world.

Something similar happened with Puerto Rico. They're back buzzing now on the global stage, but that's after a lengthy run of insularity. They threw the reggaeton shyt of the early 00's in the bushes and went to their roots with bachata and Aventura/Romeo Santos running the scene. After that a younger generation came through with the more western influence.

It'll probably be the same in Jamaica. Some kids who are 12-13 now are going to mix the roots reggae with whatever the dominant urban vibe is 5-7 years from now and be on some new shyt.

Summed it up

 

[BigMan]

...but this is nothing new...they did this is even in the era of what we would call classic dancehall.




The only difference now is that have to update their sounds to keep up with changing sounds of what's popping now

I don’t see in my post where I said it was new

 

[AB Ziggy]

Maybe some hip hop elements would help it just as helped reggaeton blow up.

 

[Budda]

This is really the main answer. I'm shocked there's even pages of debate about this because it's obvious the audience/potential demographic size is what's helping these Latin artists get on and do the numbers they do. You can have Mexicans, Dominicans and Cubans all bumping the same Puerto Rican artist. That's HUGE. Even the really garbage tracks can easily pull 100M+ views based on the size and reach of the market. Who else, but English language artists can even say that?

French Africans.

 

[Budda]

It's afrobeats time i guess..

 

[Contrefaire]

French Africans.

French African artists have a demographic comparable to Latin Americans?

 

[ThiefyPoo]

Ain't this the dumbest shyt

Real reasons are:
Post Vybz, dancehall has gotten too hardcore, and too hardcore in a way that is too culturally specific to Jamaica to resonate over here beyond an urban club level.

Dancehall in general is in a creative rut. This combined with the above has allowed for once the vulturing of dancehall music to be successfully sold back to Jamaica. American artists are filling the void for Jamaicans for bubblegum, feel good dancehall.

The world is finally paying attention to African music, and african pop and dance music is in a commercial golden era. The western mainstream audience doesn't know the difference.

The increased hardcore shift in the music years ago led to a rebirth of roots reggae. A sizable portion of the younger, talented artists grew up with a distaste for the over westernization of Jamaica music and are doubling down on the basics and making it their own again.

For the first time since the 80's, the most popular Jamaican artist isn't a dancehall artist. It's Chronixx, who doesn't make club music.

Chronixx's music is phenomenal, but it's not the sort of shyt that's going to slide into contemporary urban radio around the world inbetween stripper and opiate anthems.

So, as it stands now, Jamaican music, by and large, is not for the world.

Something similar happened with Puerto Rico. They're back buzzing now on the global stage, but that's after a lengthy run of insularity. They threw the reggaeton shyt of the early 00's in the bushes and went to their roots with bachata and Aventura/Romeo Santos running the scene. After that a younger generation came through with the more western influence.

It'll probably be the same in Jamaica. Some kids who are 12-13 now are going to mix the roots reggae with whatever the dominant urban vibe is 5-7 years from now and be on some new shyt.

Best post in here period !!!

The Afro beats example was simply excellent .

Mixed of roots and pop you basically keeping both audiences happy while being able to cross over .


Dancehall had the formula in the early 2000's I'm sure they will come up with it again .

Man the Riddims were so different from each other .

Linky was just

Some bday I use to use listen to the version and be amazed at some of these producers .

I don't remember what riddim it was but every artist had a different version . Same baseline of course but everyone's instrumental was a tad diff .

 

[ElMorenoFeo809]

Theres also something with PR having 1st world status. Their promotions game are strong just like the mainland in latin american world.

 

[Budda]

French African artists have a demographic comparable to Latin Americans?

Yep check some of their views, they be getting 100m with no influence on Us charts.

 

[Yaboysix]

All that shyt sounds the same(no offense to my island and latino brehs)

Except when they do a Americanized waterd down twang to it like Rhianna or drake .that shyt is catchy and listenable then (rude boy, controla)