Why are guns legal?

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Our military is what protects us from foreign countries and if the gov wanted to kill us, firearms won't save you. They have drones breh

The founding fathers didn't predict there would be drones when they wrote the constitution. The government controls the military that's why need guns because we're not a part of the government . who's going to protect Americans from America?
 

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The police heard my moms accent and proceeded to take 1hour to get to my house, btw there was a police officer who lived on my block who didn't do shyt cuz he was a racist cac. When the police finally showed up they started asking my mom how she was able to afford all the shyt in my house... come on
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damn breh thats fukkin terrible
 

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The founding fathers didn't predict there would be drones when they wrote the constitution. The government controls the military that's why need guns because we're not a part of the government . who's going to protect Americans from America?
Exactly why we should give no fukks about some of the stuff in the constitution, it isn't the 17th century anymore. The government is "the people", it's not some robot that could randomly turn on us all at any moment.
 

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Our military is what protects us from foreign countries and if the gov wanted to kill us, firearms won't save you. They have drones breh
The members of our military have families that are civilians and have sworn an oath to uphold the constitution. After they realize that there are unlawful orders going on there would be a huge mutiny.
 

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Exactly why we should give no fukks about some of the stuff in the constitution, it isn't the 17th century anymore. The government is "the people", it's not some robot that could randomly turn on us all at any moment.
except that we should definitely give a fukk about the constitution and the bill of rights because it protects our God given rights and most of the shyt is still applicable today. The government is definitely not the people if you really take a look around you. The system is broken and needs to be fixed and the only thing stopping rogue factions within or government or a full corporate take over is that piece of paper
 

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bullshyt the amount of people killing their own family members with firearms would be way more.

280+ million guns in america

A child or teen is killed once every seven and a half hours with a gun, either by accident or by suicide. In 72 percent of these cases, the firearm used was housed in the victim’s own residence

Children aged 5 to 14 in the United States are 11 times more likely to die from an accidental gunshot wound than children in other developed countries

They found that people who keep a gun in their home are almost twice as likely to die in a gun-related homicide, and that the risk was especially greater for women: women living in a home where there is a gun are almost three times more likely to die in a gun-related homicide than men similarly situated. The risk of killing oneself using a gun was almost 17 times greater for persons who live in a home where there is a gun, compared to those in homes without guns

The study by Wiebe shows that having a gun at home is associated with an increased risk of dying by gunfire, so gun ownership does not appear to be protective of violent firearms-related killings. But the Wiebe study was also able to compute the likelihood of dying by violence other than gunfire. They found there was no relationship between owning a gun and homicide by means other than a gun. In other words, having a gun around is not associated with a decreased risk of homicide of any sort. The study could find no empiric evidence that owning a gun confers some protection on a household from homicide
 

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The members of our military have families that are civilians and have sworn an oath to uphold the constitution. After they realize that there are unlawful orders going on there would be a huge mutiny.
Exactly. It would never happen, so no reason to list that as a reason to have guns
 

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except that we should definitely give a fukk about the constitution and the bill of rights because it protects our God given rights and most of the shyt is still applicable today. The government is definitely not the people if you really take a look around you. The system is broken and needs to be fixed and the only thing stopping rogue factions within or government or a full corporate take over is that piece of paper
Give no fukks about "some" of the stuff. It's far from a perfect document and some of the shyt in there was put in there to help preserve the power of the wealthy white elites that wrote it. We already have a full corporate take over because of lobbying and campaign finance laws. The gov doesn't care about the constitution anymore, the president can use executive orders that completely subverts the whole separation of powers thing.
 

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Problem isn't the weapon,its the man behind the weapon. There's too many bytches out here who only want to kill and run. If you want to be a killer do it like men did barefisted or with a knife. Nikkas running around shooting each oyher and never having to look at the person when doing it. That's why its so easy for them to kill others is because they dont have a connection with the death.

How many nikkas could really say they beat someone to death versus them shooting someone to death.
 

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wrong there are still foreign armies, mercenaries, private armies, gangs, terrorism, theft, homicide and etc
We have a military to protect us from a lot of that stuff and I was only talking about the "we need guns so we can protect ourselves from our own gov" argument that gun nuts always bring up.
 

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A child or teen is killed once every seven and a half hours with a gun, either by accident or by suicide. In 72 percent of these cases, the firearm used was housed in the victim’s own residence

Children aged 5 to 14 in the United States are 11 times more likely to die from an accidental gunshot wound than children in other developed countries

They found that people who keep a gun in their home are almost twice as likely to die in a gun-related homicide, and that the risk was especially greater for women: women living in a home where there is a gun are almost three times more likely to die in a gun-related homicide than men similarly situated. The risk of killing oneself using a gun was almost 17 times greater for persons who live in a home where there is a gun, compared to those in homes without guns

The study by Wiebe shows that having a gun at home is associated with an increased risk of dying by gunfire, so gun ownership does not appear to be protective of violent firearms-related killings. But the Wiebe study was also able to compute the likelihood of dying by violence other than gunfire. They found there was no relationship between owning a gun and homicide by means other than a gun. In other words, having a gun around is not associated with a decreased risk of homicide of any sort. The study could find no empiric evidence that owning a gun confers some protection on a household from homicide

I feel like this study is flawed. Why even bring up suicide, that person would find a way to kill themselves anyway. Since the study was don from the perspective of public health all it does is count the bodies and see if there was a firearm present in the home and use that to calculate risk factor. It doesn't differentiate why and how person died. If it was self-defense or etc. If a man uses his firearm to kill his wife do you really believe if he didn't own a gun he wouldn't just kill her with a knife in the kitchen?

Why should I be at risk because some other clown was irresponsible?

Don't like guns or Don't feel comfortable around them? Don't buy them.

The criminal element will always have access to guns .
 

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damn breh thats fukkin terrible
It sure is.

There are some things you can rey on the police for and some things you just cant.

At least with guns around you have options. We just need better gun control where people with histories of mental illness and/or suicidal ideation can't posses a firearm until they are in the clear.

It's hilarious in ny, not having guns in the hands of legal citizens has allowed the creation of an army of do-nothing corrupt cops who at times can be militarized.
 

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I feel like this study is flawed. Why even bring up suicide, that person would find a way to kill themselves anyway. Since the study was don from the perspective of public health all it does is count the bodies and see if there was a firearm present in the home and use that to calculate risk factor. It doesn't differentiate why and how person died. If it was self-defense or etc. If a man uses his firearm to kill his wife do you really believe if he didn't own a gun he wouldn't just kill her with a knife in the kitchen?

Why should I be at risk because some other clown was irresponsible?

Don't like guns or Don't feel comfortable around them? Don't buy them.

The criminal element will always have access to guns .
Guns escalate the situation, if your house was being robbed, typically the robbers aren't there to kill anyone, but if you come down the stairs carrying a shotgun now they're scared for their life and may shoot you on the spot. Most criminals don't want to kill you. But I also respect why many people would want to have a gun to protect their fam or possessions, but it certainly can cause problems too.
 
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