Why Are Black Women's Suicide Rates So Low? (Serious Thread)

[Poitier]

I don't get your point. The article talks about how the unemployment rate is basically stagnant for black women.

And they still are being employed at a higher rate than other groups so how is that proof?

 

[Arishok]

And they still are being employed at a higher rate than other groups so how is that proof?

Are they? I didn't know that.

 

[Easy-E]

" As the number of women incarcerated has increased by 800 percent over the last three decades, women of color have been disproportionately represented. While the number of women incarcerated is relatively low, the racial and ethnic disparities are startling. African American women are three times more likely than white women to be incarcerated, while Hispanic women are 69 percent more likely than white women to be incarcerated."

"Once convicted, black offenders receive longer sentences compared to white offenders. The U.S. Sentencing Commission stated that in the federal system black offenders receive sentences that are 10 percent longer than white offenders for the same crimes. The Sentencing Project reports that African Americans are 21 percent more likely to receive mandatory-minimum sentences than white defendants and are 20 percent more like to be sentenced to prison." (I know it doesn't mention gender but the above basically says the same thing).

"African-American women are the only demographic in the United States whose unemployment rate has not improved over the past year, according to a National Women's Law Center analysis of the latest jobs data." (rest of the article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05/black-women-employment_n_5773880.html)

Here's another article mentioning the same as the above quote in more detail: http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/in-plain-sight/dying-out-here-u-s-job-gains-leave-black-women-n202376

This is what I have for now, I'll try to find some more in the mean time @Easy-E

That's better, but, like I said; black men are being railroaded by the criminal justice system.

(Criminal Justice Degree holder)

Black men make up 70% of the non violent drug incarceration rate that's ballooning the ridiculous prison population.

While black women have bad jobs numbers (which is killin' black folk, as a whole):

African American women earned more than half of all science and engineering degrees completed by African Americans—surpassing their male counterparts.

African American-owned businesses are the fastest-growing segment of the women-owned business market and are starting up at a rate six times higher than the national average.

http://www.americanprogress.org/iss...-african-american-women-in-the-united-states/

And all your numbers are comparing black women to white women, who got it better than EVERYBODY who ain't a white man.

 

[Arishok]

That's better, but, like I said; black men are being railroaded by the criminal justice system.


While black women have bad jobs numbers (which is killin' black folk, as a whole):





http://www.americanprogress.org/iss...-african-american-women-in-the-united-states/

And all your numbers are comparing black women to white women, who got it better than EVERYBODY who ain't a white man.

I wasn't trying to argue that black men weren't being railroad, I've already said multiple times black men have it worst which is why we're debating black women have it SECOND worst. So who should I compare these numbers to? Asian and Hispanic women? You do know most stats compare white men to black men correct, so it would only be better to compare black women (second most targeted group) to white women (second most privileged group).

 

[Chelsea Bridge]

And they still are being employed at a higher rate than other groups so how is that proof?

Where's your proof of that?

 

[Easy-E]

I wasn't trying to argue that black men weren't being railroad, I've already said multiple times black men have it worst which is why we're debating black women have it SECOND worst. So who should I compare these numbers to? Asian and Hispanic women? You do know most stats compare white men to black men correct, so it would only be better to compare black women (second most targeted group) to white women (second most privileged group).

The fact of the matter is;

Black women have a lot goin' for them, despite what they are going through. You can't say the same for a lot of other groups.

I've been spurred to do more research, but, the only point your making is; black women have it worst than white women. You win that one.

"Worst," "Second Worst," it's all hyperbole, to me. You don't just grab a bunch of negative news stories and statistics and say; this is the state of Black (Female) America.

Yes, a lot of it is horrible and unfortunate.

Some of the stuff is misleading and incomplete. (ex. unemployment numbers)

Some of it isn't exclusive to one group, even in it's severity (ex. the Asian population is much smaller than the black)

Some of the stuff--and you may not want to hear this--are self inflicted wounds. (ex. almost 3/4 of black kids are born to single parents--that would definitely effect your earning potential)

You take a lot of this into consideration and it doesn't add up to what you are trying to state.

Please, don't zero in on any one part of my many posts, in this thread. My want is to uplift.

I don't see the positive in a defeatist attitude toward the state of black women. Especially

 

[Poitier]

Where's your proof of that?

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/blac...-gains-in-employment-in-the-last-year.246541/

 

[Arishok]

The fact of the matter is;

Black women have a lot goin' for them, despite what they are going through. You can't say the same for a lot of other groups.

I've been spurred to do more research, but, the only point your making is; black women have it worst than white women. You win that one.

"Worst," "Second Worst," it's all hyperbole, to me. You don't just grab a bunch of negative news stories and statistics and say; this is the state of Black (Female) America.

Yes, a lot of it is horrible and unfortunate.

Some of the stuff is misleading and incomplete. (ex. unemployment numbers)

Some of it isn't exclusive to one group, even in it's severity (ex. the Asian population is much smaller than the black)

Some of the stuff--and you may not want to hear this--are self inflicted wounds. (ex. almost 3/4 of black kids are born to single parents--that would definitely effect your earning potential)

You take a lot of this into consideration and it doesn't add up to what you are trying to state.

Please, don't zero in on any one part of my many posts, in this thread. My want is to uplift.

I don't see the positive in a defeatist attitude toward the state of black women. Especially

So just tell me who has it worse than and back it up . I'm willing to listen and hear it you, I mean, I've held up my end of the bargain.

 

[Easy-E]

So just tell me who has it worse than and back it up . I'm willing to listen and hear it you, I mean, I've held up my end of the bargain.

I'll be back.

 

[Chelsea Bridge]

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/blac...-gains-in-employment-in-the-last-year.246541/

Where?

 

[Poitier]

Where?

African-American women age 20 or older are unemployed, unchanged from a year ago, according to Friday’s jobs report from the Labor Department.

unemployment for adult Hispanic women rose to 8.1 percent from 7.7 percent.


The unemployment for adult African-American men declined to 10.8 percent from 13.4 percent a year ago.

 

[Axum Ezana]

-I think cause blacks used to suffering.

-black community/church shuns that form of direct suicide most times. also preach that "god will see u through your troubles"...

-blacks laugh at yah problems, but at the end of day they will have sympathy in way.


















-nikkas be smoking weed bruh.

 

[Chelsea Bridge]

African-American women age 20 or older are unemployed, unchanged from a year ago, according to Friday’s jobs report from the Labor Department.

unemployment for adult Hispanic women rose to 8.1 percent from 7.7 percent.


The unemployment for adult African-American men declined to 10.8 percent from 13.4 percent a year ago.

I'm confused. Are you trying to make this into a positive for BW?

 

[Poitier]

I'm confused. Are you trying to make this into a positive for BW?

@MarsPunka was using it as proof of having it bad, which yall do, bit there are other groups in fukked up positions under White supremacy (namely BM).

 

[Couth]

Its cuz they got all the cons of being black, with all the privileges of being a women.

Their somewhat tough cuz black people have to be tough. But at the same time most of them are living on easy street cuz they're women, and thats what women get to do. Hence low suicide rates.