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A lot of people don't understand the difference between local sports teams and national sports teams.

The NBA is a professional basketball league that is made up of LOCAL basketball teams in 30 cities across North America (29 in the US and 1 in Canada). NBA teams represent their respective cities and/or regions, but NOT the country that they play in. Thus, NBA teams are NOT "World Champions". For example, the Lakers do NOT represent the entire United States; they only represent Los Angeles and the greater Los Angeles area.

Basketball teams in FIBA and the Olympics are NATIONAL teams because they represent their respective countries, and the players on those teams are solely citizens of that respective country. FIBA and Olympic teams also play against national teams from other countries. Thus, whoever wins the FIBA World Cup or Olympic basketball tournament can be considered "World Champions". Team USA in both FIBA and the Olympics represents the entire US in basketball.

Another way of looking at it is that even though the Toronto Raptors play in Toronto, most Raptors players are American. That's because the Raptors are NOT Team Canada, and Raptors players do NOT actually have to be from Toronto or Canada in general. Meanwhile, Team France, being a national team, will ONLY be made up of players who are French (meaning they are citizens of France).

The same is true in Euroleague

Real Madrid are the reigning champions and their starters were from America, Bosnia, Hungary, Croatia and Cape Verde. Only 5 players on the roster were actually from Spain

Only countries where this is not the case are the ones like China where their rules limit the amount of foreign players allowed on a team

Everyone should know that players on a club team typically are from all over
 

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A lot of people don't understand the difference between local sports teams and national sports teams.

The NBA is a professional basketball league that is made up of LOCAL basketball
Based on what? If it’s becuase of geographical location than that would apply to “national teams” as well ….a “team” isn’t a living breathing thing …the players who comprise a team are and those players in the NBA are obviously not “local” they’re globally sourced :mjlol:




The fact that people are having difficulties comprehending this is yet another indication of the failing education system across our country and several others unfortunately.
 
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So his point is a semantical one .. i.e. meaningless

“You can only call yourself world champions if only the organizing body calls itself the world championship” :mjlol:


This is the most trite …ignorant shyt I’ve heard in a minute
Typical obtuse Europeans struggle with common sense when it comes to these topics, though, out of some sort of weirdo "we hate everything generating from the United States" deal.
 

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This pushback is hilarious.


If you’re not playing the world you aren’t world champions
Playing the “world” isn’t some unique abstraction or singular organism as some of you are mindbogglingly preseting it here. Every team is composed of individual players…those players don’t suddenly lose being from certain regions around the “world” when they put on an NBA jersey …shyt is silly :russ:



when Jokic puts on a Nuggets jersey he’s not somehow magically from Denver instead of Serbia LMAO
 
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This nikka Giannis gave his blood sweat and tears for the Bucks and yet, the FIBA World Cup a non-club competition dictates who the club World Champs are?? :what:
The worst part of it is that the FIBA' World Cup is not even a club competition; it's a national team competition. These Euros all know that sports have club world champs and national team world champs and are ignoring the distinction to try and make what is an increasingly silly point.

At some point, it's typing into the void. If they want to believe that the Nuggets need to beat the Lionang Flying Leopards in a FIBA-sponsored club tournament before they can mention being the best team in the world, it is what it is. You gotta just let these slowpokes believe what they want to believe.
 

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Based on what? If it’s becuase of geographical location than that would apply to “national teams” as well ….a “team” isn’t a living breathing thing …the players who comprise a team are and those players in the NBA are obviously not “local” they’re globally sourced :mjlol:




The fact that people are having difficulties comprehending this is yet another indication of the failing education system across our country and several others unfortunately.
Local, meaning that they play in a specific city or region.

For example, even if the Boston Celtics were ONLY composed of non-American players and they won an NBA title, the Celtics still wouldn't be "World Champions". They didn't play against teams from other countries, and the Celtics do NOT represent all of the United States. The Celtics aren't Team USA.

Now, if the NBA created an international basketball tournament where NBA teams play against local pro teams from countries around the world, then yes, the NBA team that won that tournament could be considered "World Champions" (but not in the same way as a team that wins at the Olympics or FIBA World Cup).
 

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Typical obtuse Europeans struggle with common sense when it comes to these topics, though, out of some sort of weirdo "we hate everything generating from the United States" deal.
I just had a conversation with an out of pocket Jamaican cat that I haven’t gotten along with years, but refriended him on Facebook:

Him: “ while you’re posting all the videos you need to explain why the NBA call33 themselves the world champions at one time.”

Me: “ you’re crying for an explanation of something the NBA called the world champions in 1986 but wanna call the video I posted with the of the 2013 NBA Finals celebration where they dont call themselves world champions “old.”

Make it make sense!



I have since blocked his dumb ass
 

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There are no world champions in the NBA, so anybody that has the flag up that says world champions is not correct…. It’s not appropriate. …It doesn’t make sense for an NBA team to call themselves world champions. I don’t remember anybody playing anybody outside our borders to get that tag. Isn’t that true? I keep waiting for somebody to tell me I’ve missed something.’

-5 Time NBA Champion coach Gregg Popovich, 2010


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There are no world champions in the NBA, so anybody that has the flag up that says world champions is not correct…. It’s not appropriate. …It doesn’t make sense for an NBA team to call themselves world champions. I don’t remember anybody playing anybody outside our borders to get that tag. Isn’t that true? I keep waiting for somebody to tell me I’ve missed something.’

-5 Time NBA Champion coach Gregg Popovich, 2010


:stopitslime:
I love Pop, but this man's teams relied on key contributors from the U.S. Virgin Islands, France, Argentina, and Australia to win titles, among other countries.
 

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Local, meaning that they play in a specific city or region.
1. The “World Championship” is held in a specific city or region as well ….like what the fukk are you guys talking about :mjlol:

2. What the hell does where you geographically play have to do with who you’re actually competing against? Like what? we’re diverged into a conversation that doesn’t even have to do with the actual competitors anymore …Lmao

The shyt gets sillier and sillier the more you nikkas try to make it make sense…. it ok to just say Noah Lyes is an idiot who clearly didn’t think before speaking.
For example, even if the Boston Celtics were ONLY composed of non-American players and they won an NBA title, the Celtics still wouldn't be "World Champions". They didn't play against teams from other countries, and the Celtics do NOT represent all of the United States. The Celtics aren't Team USA.
1. A “team” means absolutely nothing without PLAYERS nikka … a team isn’t a self sustaining organism ..in this example the “Boston Celtics” are an amalgamation of several individuals from apparently several countries they represent the “world” just as much as any national team would represent their countries ..

2. Where a team is “from” or HQ’d is pretty irrelevant if all of the people representing that team aren’t from the same place… that’s why Apple Google Microsoft etc etc are identified as “multinational/global organizations” not just american ones ..how are you still conflating this simple concept lol … like again THINK then speak.

Now, if the NBA created an international basketball tournament where NBA teams play against local pro teams from countries around the world, then yes, the NBA team that won that tournament could be considered "World Champions" (but not in the same way as a team that wins at the Olympics or FIBA World Cup).
How does this make sense in your brain when players currently in the NBA are already from different countries … why would they need to go play “countries around the world” when the competition is already integrated with those international players lmao …like just sit and actually think about what you’re writing

What you’re arguing is that once a player from outside of the states puts on an NBA uniform he is magically no longer apart or attached to whatever region they originated in ..which of course is completely asinine…

A “national team” is just a different way of distributing the same talent pool that the NBA pulls from..in fact it strains that talent pool out and makes it an even higher bar to obtain.. like literally …

I will say tho the idea of simply putting an NBA jersey on these international players causing so much confusion and tripping you guys up logically around these simple facts is comical to read lol
 

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1. The “World Championship” is held in a specific city or region as well ….like what the fukk are you guys talking about :mjlol:

2. What the hell does where you geographically play have to do with who you’re actually competing against? Like what? we’re diverged into a conversation that doesn’t even have to do with the actual competitors anymore …Lmao

The shyt gets sillier and sillier the more you nikkas try to make it make sense…. it ok to just say Noah Lyes is an idiot who clearly didn’t think before speaking.

1. A “team” means absolutely nothing without PLAYERS nikka … a team isn’t a self sustaining organism ..in this example the “Boston Celtics” are an amalgamation of several individuals from apparently several countries they represent the “world” just as much as any national team would represent their countries ..

2. Where a team is “from” or HQ’d is pretty irrelevant if all of the people representing that team aren’t from the same place… that’s why Apple Google Microsoft etc etc are identified as “multinational/global organizations” not just american ones ..how are you still conflating this simple concept lol … like again THINK then speak.


How does this make sense in your brain when players currently in the NBA are already from different countries … why would they need to go play “countries around the world” when the competition is already integrated with those international players lmao …like just sit and actually think about what you’re writing

What you’re arguing is that once a player from outside of the states puts on an NBA uniform he is magically no longer apart or attached to whatever region they originated in ..which of course is completely asinine…

A “national team” is just a different way of distributing the same talent pool that the NBA pulls from..in fact it strains that talent pool out and makes it an even higher bar to obtain.. like literally …

I will say tho the idea of simply putting an NBA jersey on these international players causing so much confusion and tripping you guys up logically around these simple facts is comical to read lol
This is a bunch of nonsensical rambling.
 
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