Excellent marketing if you ask me.
I heard things but never paid attention to this guy before today.
Whole Foods legit has people thinking differently out here about the organics movement
Whole Foods' Co-Founder John Mackey: "Why Intellectuals Hate Capitalism"
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I heard things but never paid attention to this guy before today.
Whole Foods legit has people thinking differently out here about the organics movement
Stop speaking in absolutes.
Capitalism works...WITH restraints.
The argument becomes which restraints do we allow and enforce.
HE SAID HE WOULD PAY SOMEONE 10 CENTS A HOUR
just like the countless other American capitalists who actually do pay kids in impoverished countries to work for 10 cents an hour.
This sort of rhetoric scares the living fukk out of me.
This is what makes communists so naive.
You don't account for the aspirations of successful and intelligent people to leverage their creative advantages outside of central planning
I'm willing to allow and permit some degree of stratification in society with reasonable levels of exploitation (however you define it)The tendency for the type of capitalism dreamed of by the petit bourgeoisie to give way to "crony capitalism" is built into the system. The only way for the petit bourgeoisie's vision of capitalism to be realized is to massively decentralize and deindustrialize society into something resembling early 19th century America. And even that was predicated upon ethnic cleansing and settler colonialism, as well as slave labor.
You don't have nearly enough cases to use as evidence to say "all socialist societies give way to capital invariably." The fight for socialism is a global fight. Socialism in one country is not possible. And the first successful revolution that came anywhere close to being in the interests of the working class was less than 100 years ago (the Russian Revolution). But we got nikkas talking about "invariably"
"'Freeman and slave, patrician and plebian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes."
So, no, we should not be discussing where we can meet in the middle. We need to be discussing how to solve the problem once and for all, to move past this fukkery and toward a liberated future.
Are you ok with this?
Is it ok for me to think this way?
AJaRuleStan
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This is it. Cultural Marxist refuse to believe man is inherently self-interested, and fix'd into this state, biologically. They just don't work off that premise, so they can look at the same events that ppl on the right do, and reach wildly different conclusion because their thinking is shaped on a juvenile belief of how human nature works.
That was the whole logic behind the foundind fathers decision making. They understood that man is selfish and focused on individual pursuits, so decisions about country(economy) has to function within those constraints. The founders logic demands checks and balances and refuses to accept that all people could put aside their innate self-interest. It's why the right is so anti gov't, it's a question of human nature.
“It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities, but of their advantages” - Adam Smith
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fam didn't blink his eyes yoHE SAID HE WOULD PAY SOMEONE 10 CENTS A HOUR
Straight looked in the camera and said "we feel this fukkboy would be worth $4 if we could pay it to him"
JahFocus CS
Get It How You Get It
Slavery works... with restraints... just allow for humane beatings and provide good food and serviceable shelter
But everything you've said has been in absolutes.
Theres a reason theres no silicon valley isn't in russia or china, and its not because they don't have silicon
You don't get to use words like "slavery" and think you've made a point.Slavery works... with restraints... just allow for humane beatings and provide good food and serviceable shelter
Thats the sort of unnecessary hyperbole that doesn't advance dialogue.
shut upAnd here we devolve into just name-calling
Answer me this:
Why are you such a proponent of socialism that ends up being unchecked?
At what point do you say, theres a medium?
Because theres NEVER any nuance or leeway in your arguments. Its always hardlined and immature.
Slavery works... with restraints... just allow for humane beatings and provide good food and serviceable shelter
JahFocus CS
Get It How You Get It
"Humans are naturally selfish" - capitalism tries to hammer this idea home at every turn so people internalize it and believe it as a justification for capitalism... and despite this gargantuan effort, there are still countless people who fight for and favor solidarity and cooperation every single day.
You could say heterosexual men are naturally almost always horny but does that justify rape?
(I'm sure we have some far right-wingers on here who believe it does 
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There is no single, fixed "human nature," especially not one independent of material and social circumstances
You could say heterosexual men are naturally almost always horny but does that justify rape?
(I'm sure we have some far right-wingers on here who believe it does )There is no single, fixed "human nature," especially not one independent of material and social circumstances
JahFocus CS
Get It How You Get It
It was a good system for slaveholders, right?
Enslaved people had shelter, food, and clothes, right? That was prosperity compared to how a lot of people around the world were living, right?
"The defenders of slavery rightly identified the links between abolitionism and socialism."