Whole Foods' Co-Founder John Mackey: "Why Intellectuals Hate Capitalism"

[JahFocus CS]

Governments aren't private companies

Try again

That artificial line you drew only exists in the bourgeois worldview and only serves to protect bourgeois interests.

That line is not relevant to the interests of the working class (the vast majority of humanity).

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

That artificial line you drew only exists in the bourgeois worldview and only serves to protect bourgeois interests.

That line is not relevant to the interests of the working class (the vast majority of humanity).

Wow...people with self interests are self interested?

 

[Tate]

You see it?

These dudes stay fronting when shyt gets too real...thats why I stopped trying to debate them on every line item like I used to. They flat out are lying in here and misrepresenting simple arguments.

@tmonster is the worst offender when it comes to having to stop trolling and get down to arguing. Dude descends into ad-hominem city so fast its not even funny when he can't just back out.

I legit have my own problems with "capitalism" but if you start out with slavery and calling all forms of management dictators like @Swavy Karl Marx

What other word describes someone who is unaccountable to thier subjects ?

And I never said all management is a dictatorship. Management is necessary and good, if elected and accountable.

Door knockers can't remain door knockers if they want to run supply chain management or any other aspects of a company.

This is what you don't understand.

Have you ever worked a serious job? Do you realize how specialized most jobs are at the low end? And do you realize the amount of talent it takes to integrate all of those from a 3rd party?

You are the master at trivializing nuance because you seem to think its not important to you.

Step out of this fantasy and understand how reality sets in when complex organizations are at work.

Who said they'd run the supply chain? They're still gonna do thier jobs they're just gonna have an elected representative who voices thier interests and concerns.

Do you have an argument outside of low level laborers are rubes? I feel this has become circular.

 

[tmonster]

@tmonster tried to make it seem like modern capitalists defend slavery though...how much more of a liar can you be?

weird
I laughed this comment off since I had not articulated it, but yeah...in theory I can stand by that and there is plenty of reference material to support it, we can start with foxxcon and apple or the sweat shop boats with Asian laborers on the shores of Jamaica, or the Kathie Lee Gifford sweat shops in bangladesh (IIRC), but yeah there is plenty of evidence to infer that the current capitalist paradigm does
not only that, how can it not if the only this that matters to it is the bottom line, slavery is not against its ethos, it only has one rule

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What other word describes someone who is unaccountable to thier subjects ?

And I never said all management is a dictatorship. Management is necessary and good, if elected and accountable.



Who said they'd run the supply chain? They're still gonna do thier jobs they're just gonna have an elected representative who voices thier interests and concerns.

Do you have an argument outside of low level laborers are rubes? I feel this has become circular.

The stratification of large organizations requires that some people just be left out of the management discussion.

There are door knocker REPs...but their say doesn't fully matter as much as every other aspect of the business.

Lets be honest, you want every company to conform to your narrow view of how business is done, when in reality you have no real perception of the diversity and role of different companies that exist.

You're naive, to say the least.

 

[tmonster]

You equated all criticism of modern capitalism to slavery.

read that to yourself, the sentence makes no sense in context
slow down, breathe, wipe the tears from your eyes and think; then post...or not

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

weird
I laughed this comment off since I had not articulated it, but yeah...in theory I can stand by that and there is plenty of reference material to support it, we can start with foxxcon and apple or the sweat shop boats with Asian laborers on the shores of Jamaica, or the Kathie Lee Gifford sweat shops in bangladesh (IIRC), but yeah there is plenty of evidence to infer that the current capitalist paradigm does
not only that, how can it not if the only this that matters to it is the bottom line, slavery is not against its ethos, it only has one rule

Let me say this as clearly as possible.

For as long as I continue to live in the USA, I value USA worker rights over anyone else. I care about the home-front more than anyone else.

So, that being said, I want those jobs to come back to the USA.

HOWEVER, until they do, what incentive do those companies have to come back to the USA and how much should they be forced to comply?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

read that to yourself, the sentence makes no sense in context
slow down, breathe, wipe the tears from your eyes and think; then post...or not

speak in parables with an N=1, brehs

 

[Jen The Prude]

Sometimes he makes me hate the fact that I own (struggle) shares in Whole Foods and that I spend 4 figures (on avg) at my local store every month.

 

[Tate]

The stratification of large organizations requires that some people just be left out of the management discussion.

There are door knocker REPs...but their say doesn't fully matter as much as every other aspect of the business.

Lets be honest, you want every company to conform to your narrow view of how business is done, when in reality you have no real perception of the diversity and role of different companies that exist.

You're naive, to say the least.

So you support the idea that some people just don't matter? You continue to use arguments that were used to justify slavery, disenfranchisement, serfdom, and oppression in general. I'm concerned about your reactionary world view breh.

I want people to have a say in thier lives. I think virtually every worker would support a vote in matters as important to them as thier company's action.

For the 5th time now, it's democracy, not tyranny

 

[DEAD7]

Crazy how they can share talking points and ideological lineage with aristocrats, monarchists, and slaveholders, and not bat an eye

fallacious.

 

[JahFocus CS]

At the end of the day, what the bourgeoisie or petit bourgeoisie thinks is utterly irrelevant.

For this system to persist, it is necessary to keep fooling the working class. If they are no longer fooled, then the charade is up.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

At the end of the day, what the bourgeoisie or petit bourgeoisie thinks is utterly irrelevant.

For this system to persist, it is necessary to keep fooling the working class. If they are no longer fooled, then the charade is up.

Theres a reason the guy delivering mail isn't working in the administration

 

[DEAD7]

How is democracy tyrannical? You sound like the men who said freeing the slaves would be tantamount to putting whites in slavery,

plural de·moc·ra·cies
Full Definition of DEMOCRACY
1
a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority

b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held freeelections

Majority rule is tyrannical

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Sometimes he makes me hate the fact that I own (struggle) shares in Whole Foods and that I spend 4 figures (on avg) at my local store every month.

You don't have to shop there though, right?

And whats your thoughts on the low-price stores opening up in 2016?