Who would you say has the highest ceiling between: Montez Ford, Ricky Starks, & Carmelo Hayes?

[Cattle Mutilation]

Taker can show up to any venue in the world and immediately be recognized by any crowd. He can show up at the BET awards or a fukkin MLB game and the majority of muhfukkas gon know who he is


Same with Jeff Hardy and a buncha other guys



To me, again, that’s peak wrestling stardom. Dudes aren’t getting to that level without the WWE rocket.


Kenny Omega could walk through Disneyland on a packed day literally wearing a “I wrestle for AEW shirt” and nobody will know who this nikka is. He’s a star… in AEW… but in the grand scheme he’s nobody. Their platform just isn’t enough

And everyone who has watched modern professional porn in the last like 15 years is going to know who Riley Reid is if they pop up at a baseball game. That don’t mean she is some crossover star.

 

[KFBF]

Also, I disagree that being a crossover star is the highest ceiling of a pro wrestler. Wrestling is wrestling. It's not Hollywood. That would be like saying the highest ceiling of a NBA player is to be a Hollywood star.

No one would consider someone leaving the NBA to act a success story. The exact opposite is true for wrestling.

 

[HYDRO]

Shut yo dumbass up. Montez has all the tools to be the best, meanwhile Starks is just cosplaying as 98 Rock.

Get off his dikk

 

[Cattle Mutilation]

No one would consider someone leaving the NBA to act a success story. The exact opposite is true for wrestling.

And Hollywood isn't wrestling.

 

[KFBF]

And Hollywood isn't wrestling.

I’m pointing out why comparison to NBA did not make sense. In 2022 your success in wrestling is determined by your ability to not do it either by working a reduced schedule or being able to leave for Hollywood.

If you’re talking about which black wrestler can do a lot of moves then why isn’t riccoshyt being mentioned?

 

[Broad Street Bully]

I fukks with all 3. It goes Tez by one rung over Starks only cuz he got the WWE machine behind him then Starks above Melo by several rungs. Anyone saying Starks don’t got it clearly hasn’t been tuning in lol. Such an asinine statement. He just forcibly turned babyface because the crowd wouldn’t stop cheering for him. That nikka bout to get the rocket strapped to his back along with Hobbs after their feud is over with. That will be a star making feud for both guys. shyt if im keeping it real Imma put Hobbs over Melo.

 

[Jello Biafra]

1. Ricky Starks
2. Montez Ford
3. Carmello Hayes

Anyone saying anything else is smoking crack.

 

[mr heyzel]

ricky he's ready now and he's the total package

 

[Jello Biafra]

Also, everyone giving Montez and Carmello points over Starks for them being in WWE need to realize that Starks is most likely gonna be in WWE within the next couple years and he's coming in much more fully developed as a character and a wrestler than either Montez or Carmello are even after being in WWE for however long they have been there.

 

[Larry]

Also, everyone giving Montez and Carmello points over Starks for them being in WWE need to realize that Starks is most likely gonna be in WWE within the next couple years and he's coming in much more fully developed as a character and a wrestler than either Montez or Carmello are even after being in WWE for however long they have been there.

I do believe this as well, but I'm only speaking on right now..

And everyone who has watched modern professional porn in the last like 15 years is going to know who Riley Reid is if they pop up at a baseball game. That don’t mean she is some crossover star.

You're purposely diluting the argument and stretching this beyond where it should even be...


Being a household name in wrestling is the height. That's it. Being a marquee name that people will travel the world to see main event. That's the peak in this shyt.


I believe because of Tez platform, he has a real chance at hitting that mark. Ricky, where he is at the moment, CANT hit that mark.


but that's my opinion. You can disagree. I'm sure plenty will. it is what it is...


When Liv Morgan sneaker shopping videos are doubling the Young Bucks sneaker shopping videos from 7 months ago on the very same platform, I immediately see the difference in having the WWE machine behind you vs anywhere else. There's a reason all the top google searches from that company are who they are

 

[Killah Ray]

With Starks I wonder the timing of his contract...because he could be an absolute HUGE star in the E...

As it stands now I'd have to go with Tez because if the E wants you to be a star they'll have you on all of the late night shows and all kinds of different media to put you out there like that...it just is what it is...

 

[Cattle Mutilation]

I do believe this as well, but I'm only speaking on right now..


You're purposely diluting the argument and stretching this beyond where it should even be...


Being a household name in wrestling is the height. That's it. Being a marquee name that people will travel the world to see main event. That's the peak in this shyt.


I believe because of Tez platform, he has a real chance at hitting that mark. Ricky, where he is at the moment, CANT hit that mark.


but that's my opinion. You can disagree. I'm sure plenty will. it is what it is...


When Liv Morgan sneaker shopping videos are doubling the Young Bucks sneaker shopping videos from 7 months ago on the very same platform, I immediately see the difference in having the WWE machine behind you vs anywhere else. There's a reason all the top google searches from that company are who they are

Being a household name or being a crossover star.

Those aren’t the same things. The Rock is a crossover star because he’s become a star in another industry. Someone like Roman Reigns is a household name because he hasn’t accomplished anything of any significance in another industry.

Y’all need to make up your minds instead of changing the goalposts to fit your narrative.

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

I do believe this as well, but I'm only speaking on right now..


You're purposely diluting the argument and stretching this beyond where it should even be...


Being a household name in wrestling is the height. That's it. Being a marquee name that people will travel the world to see main event. That's the peak in this shyt.


I believe because of Tez platform, he has a real chance at hitting that mark. Ricky, where he is at the moment, CANT hit that mark.


but that's my opinion. You can disagree. I'm sure plenty will. it is what it is...


When Liv Morgan sneaker shopping videos are doubling the Young Bucks sneaker shopping videos from 7 months ago on the very same platform, I immediately see the difference in having the WWE machine behind you vs anywhere else. There's a reason all the top google searches from that company are who they are

If you promote a card around Liv Morgan headlining, and then in the next state over you have a card built around the Young Bucks headlining, the card built around the Bucks headlining is selling more tickets/PPV buys and it won't be close.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Man it is Trick Williams and the edris ...all three of these dudes you guys listed ain't it..starks is aew good, carmelo is trash and uncomfortable on the mic and ford needs to be less cartoonish in his ring moves and mannerisms

Minus the bolded, this may be the worst post in here

 

[Max.]

Lets see

Setth rollins vs montez



Melo won


Ricky starks let some clown nerd get offense in…beats him…hook comes out makes him tap for the belt n than hobbs swing at his neck…so now we gota see hobbs vs starks for months