Who Stops a ‘Bad Guy With a Gun’?
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Reminder folks open carry laws aren’t for us.
This means we need to focus on concealed carry.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
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Explain what a "good guy" even is. And how in the chaos of a shooting you'd be able to discern the assailant? You presume all these fools are dressed up like Bane or some shyt. If you had a gun and shots started flying how the fukk would you know if they're the active shooter? What if the "good guy" is returning fire but you don't realize they're trying to stop the actual "bad guy"? What a moronic strategy that is.
That shyt happened in the Gabby Giffords shooting - an unarmed civilian disarmed the shooter, then an armed "good guy with a gun" pulled a gun on the civilian hero and came within a millisecond of blowing him away. And somehow he was still portrayed as a hero on national news:
Armed Giffords hero nearly shot wrong man
Joe Zamudio, a hero in the Tucson incident, ran to the scene and helped subdue the killer, but he nearly pulled his gun on a fellow hero in the process.
www.nbcnews.com
Heaven forbid you're a Black "good guy with a gun" and the cops show up:
Update: K’aun Green, Gunned By San Jose Police After Saving Lives, Files Lawsuit
K’aun Green, the 20-year old who was shot by police after disarming an attacker, is suing the city of San Jose, California, and its police department.
www.blackenterprise.com
Police chief hails ‘good guy with a gun’ after officer kills him in tragic mistaken identity
Police say the man who shot the gunman prevented a larger loss of life.
thehill.com
Man Killed by Police at Alabama Mall Was a ‘Good Guy With a Gun,’ Family’s Lawyer Says (Published 2018)
The parents of Emantic Fitzgerald Bradford Jr. said that he pulled out a gun after a gunman opened fire inside the Riverchase Galleria in Hoover, Ala., to protect shoppers.
Black Security Guard Responding to Shooting Is Killed by Police (Published 2018)
The guard, Jemel Roberson, 26, wanted to become an officer himself. The police “saw a black man with a gun, and basically killed him,” a witness said.
#Justice4KevinDavis: Petition for DeKalb P.D. to ask for GBI Investigation of Kevin Davis Shooting
On December 29th, 2014, Kevin Davis’s life was tragically cut short at the hands of a DeKalb County, GA Police Officer. Mr. Davis called police that night, on behalf of his girlfriend, who had been stabbed by a roommate during a dispute. Upon arrival & entry, the responding officer did not make...
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Or there are all the "good guys with a gun" who shoot an innocent victim instead of the perp:
'Good guy with gun' shoots carjacking victim in head, runs off
The shooting took place in north Houston around 11:15 p.m. at a Valero gas station, KHOU Channel 11 News. Police say that two men jumped the truck's owner
www.digitaljournal.com
She Thought She’d Shot A Burglar. Then She Realized It Was Her Roommate.
Good guys with guns don’t only shoot bad guys. At least 47 times since 2015, a person has shot a friend, family member, or emergency responder they mistook for an intruder in their home.
www.buzzfeednews.com
Off-Duty Cop Accidentally Shoots Daughter
Connecticut Police Officer Critically Wounds Daughter After Mistaking Her For An Intruder
www.cbsnews.com
4 Family Members Accused of Murder in Mistaken Identity Case
Four members of a Houston family face murder charges after being accused of ambushing and killing a neighbor in what police say may be a case of mistaken identity.
www.nbcdfw.com
People with guns in general are so incompetent they can't even shoot an animal without hitting their friends or family instead:
Mom accidentally shoots her 5-year-old son while trying to target loose dog, Houston police say
A Houston mother accidentally shot her 5-year-old son while trying to target a loose dog that was running across the street, police say.
abc7.com
Rocky Mount police say a man accidently shot and killed his mother during Mother’s Day dog attack
Rocky Mount police said no charges are expected to be filed against Christopher Edwards.
www.wral.com
Teen accidentally shot twin brother while trying to shoot snake, deputies say
Investigators say a 14-year-old boy accidentally shot his twin brother while attempting to shoot a snake.
abc7chicago.com
Oklahoma Police Kill 5-Year Old Boy While Shooting at Snake
A stray bullet fired by a police officer trying to shoot a snake hit and killed a 5-year-old boy fishing at a nearby pond, officials said.
www.foxnews.com
Man tries to shoot snake, shoots wife
A woman is recovering in hospital from non-threatening leg injuries.
Sheriff: Man kills snake, accidentally shoots 9-year-old boy
A 9-year-old boy is in a Lubbock hospital with life-threatening injuries after being shot Saturday.According to Fisher County Sheriff Allan Arnwine, the boy went with his mother's friend to a ranch southwest of Roby.While there, Arwine said the man shot an
ktxs.com
Man Warding Off Bear Accidentally Shot Brother Dead, Killed Himself—Police
The man told 911 dispatchers he had "accidentally shot his brother while loading a gun."
www.newsweek.com
Yukon woman killed by bullet husband fired to stop grizzly attack: coroner
A Swiss-born woman living in Canada’s northern Yukon Territory died from a stray bullet fired by her husband trying to kill a grizzly bear that was mauling her outside their home, according to a coroner's report released Wednesday. Matthias Liniger fired several rounds at the bear, as it dragged
www.rcinet.ca
Could include hundreds more like this.
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BelowTheMasonDixon
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....or is severely outgunned.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Would love to see some data on what happens to civilians(good guys with gun) who injure or kill innocent people and damage property during their attempt at stoping bad guy with gun
BelowTheMasonDixon
Veteran
Would love to see the data on what happens in these scenarios when the good guys and bad guys basically wield the same weaponry. Good Guys with guns for the most part probably aren't stopping a Columbine or a Uvale. But they are also severely outgunned, which the media never takes into consideration. Me and my LCP 2 are just as fukked as anyone else when the assailant is wielding an M4 Carbine. Which is why this shyt is so disingenuous.Would love to see some data on what happens to civilians(good guys with gun) who injure or kill innocent people and damage property during their attempt at stoping bad guy with gun
That's before we address the elephant in the room. Most armed folks are only looking to protect themselves and their loved ones.
They're not looking to engage a random shooter if they can escape safely themselves.
Sounds like you're making a strong case for an assault weapons ban.
But I can also see that the vast majority of the 20,000 gun homicides and 100,000 gun injuries each year are committed with far less powerful weapons. So with 400 million American guns already in circulation, the overall strategy of "arming good guys with guns to stop bad guys with guns" doesn't seem to be working. We have a higher homicide rate than any other Western nation, it feels disingenuous to assume that even more guns are suddenly going to crest that crucial inflection point and finally start making things better. All else being equal, states with fewer guns have fewer homicides.
BelowTheMasonDixon
Veteran
First of all that's bullshyt. Lets look at drunk drivers, no one on the planet would place the blame on sober drivers for preventing wrecks or fatalities caused by drunk drivers. So why is it up to "good guys" or basically responsible legal gun owners to stop "bad guys" with guns. When did that become our responsibility?Sounds like you're making a strong case for an assault weapons ban.
But I can also see that the vast majority of the 20,000 gun homicides and 100,000 gun injuries each year are committed with far less powerful weapons. So with 400 million American guns already in circulation, the overall strategy of "arming good guys with guns to stop bad guys with guns" doesn't seem to be working. We have a higher homicide rate than any other Western nation, it feels disingenuous to assume that even more guns are suddenly going to crest that crucial inflection point and finally start making things better. All else being equal, states with fewer guns have fewer homicides.
I'm not the one who expects "good guys with a gun" to prevent jack shyt, that's y'alls narrative.
BelowTheMasonDixon
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I'm not the one who expects "good guys with a gun" to prevent jack shyt, that's y'alls narrative.
My narrative is why you wanna take guns away from legal law-abiding citizens because criminals kill people.
Law-abiding citizens, who aren't trying to use their guns to shoot other people, are not getting their guns taken away in our lifetime. Target practice and hunting and gun collecting are going to be lawful in the USA forever. There are more guns here than people, I own guns myself, though i don't keep them anywhere they might lead to any trouble.
The question is whether increasing the presence of guns in particularly volatile situations makes the public more or less safe. The question is whether gun rights extremists will continue to keep the country from passing even common-sense gun laws that could lower the # of shootings and # of guns in the hands of criminals. And the false claim that loading the country with "good guy guns" makes us all safer is one of the main narratives which keeps the public unsafe.
BelowTheMasonDixon
Veteran
LOL, who brought up that narrative tho? That's what I'm saying. It ain't like legal gun owners came together and marched on the "Good guys" with guns ticket. or debate. Its usually brought up after a mass shooting by people who don't like guns.
