Who doesn't belong on this graphic of young up & coming QBs?

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\Nah.....you don't when it doesn't fit your agenda.

Okay Reb, what's the agenda.

You must think I have a whiteboard behind me when i`m posting or something.

I`m just like you, they're just opinions. I use stats and ideas to formulate them. I wish I could be as organized as you make me out to be.

Do you want to do the research on Manning's under-whelming playoff performances or should I?
 
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I could only imagine Marino playing on those great niner teams:mindblown:

I hated Marino wit ha passion being a Jet fan but dudes arm was godly..

I remember wathcign him in the 91 playoffs against the Bills in a blizzard throw the balll like it was 75 and sunny it was a thing of fukking beauty..

Of course it was his fault his D gave up 40 that game..
 
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I`m not counting just championships with Brady, Brady also has the record for TD's in a single season.

Brady's got the big numbers to go along with the rings

True. How close was he before Moss?

Does Randy factor into this at all? I can't consider this a singular accomplishment by Brady alone. He cannot get sole credit.

Peyton got big numbers too. When I see Peyton, I see an offense that lives and dies by the throws he makes.

When I see Brady, I see a system that is executed extremely well. I feel like I can plug several QBs in Bell's system and have similiar success. I can't say the same for Peyton though
 
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I think people take that stuff into account, but when you discuss Peyton it's not like he just had a so-so record in the playoffs, no he was a loser in the playoffs.

I mean you see games where he was blanked by NYJ, other games they only scored 13 points.

It's the whole body of work, If Manning was 12-8 in the playoffs or something, people wouldn't be as harsh on him.

Peyton has come up short in the playoffs, true, but is that the ultimate measuring stick?

I feel confident in saying that Peyton had a lot more responsibility in his offense being productive as opposed to Brady.

You feel like its fair to make that type of comparison?
 

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True. How close was he before Moss?

Does Randy factor into this at all? I can't consider this a singular accomplishment by Brady alone. He cannot get sole credit.

Peyton got big numbers too. When I see Peyton, I see an offense that lives and dies by the throws he makes.

When I see Brady, I see a system that is executed extremely well. I feel like I can plug several QBs in Bell's system and have similiar success. I can't say the same for Peyton though

Close to what...Top numbers? He lead the league in TD's his first full year as a starter and lead the league in yards in 05' way before moss.
 

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I think measuring a single player's greatness by how many championships he has is a bit unfair. Championships are team efforts.

Brady didn't hit any game winning field goals nor did he make any crucial defensive stops in any of those championships, but when it comes to evaluating QBs, people like to put him over his peers because of ring total.

We as fans don't also take coaching into account. The Bell system is a great reason why Brady/Cassell are successful


What is this system? And Beli is the HC but he doesn't have much to do with their offense, he's the D coordinator
 

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Alex Smith is damn near 30 and been in the league for 7 yrs. how the fukk is he an up and coming QB?


they know they're wrong for that shyt.
 

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I could only imagine Marino playing on those great niner teams:mindblown:

I hated Marino wit ha passion being a Jet fan but dudes arm was godly..

I remember wathcign him in the 91 playoffs against the Bills in a blizzard throw the balll like it was 75 and sunny it was a thing of fukking beauty..

Of course it was his fault his D gave up 40 that game..

He was hit or miss that game, under 50% completion and 2 picks. Bills definitely had his number.
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