Who do you want the Democrats to run in '24?

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Because it’s Desantis and he won’t have maga voting for him

Haven't read through the thread so maybe im missing something but if Desantis is the Republican nominee you think the MAGA crowd is just going to stay home and hand Biden another 4 years? Everyone falls in line on both sides of the aisle.
 

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Haven't read through the thread so maybe im missing something but if Desantis is the Republican nominee you think the MAGA crowd is just going to stay home and hand Biden another 4 years? Everyone falls in line on both sides of the aisle.
Maga is different from the typical old white conservative

Magas are rural republicans that were disenfranchised before Trump. They’re not showing up to vote for anyone else. That is the reason why republicans have done so bad when Trump isn’t on the ballot
 

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Maga is different from the typical old white conservative

Magas are rural republicans that were disenfranchised before Trump. They’re not showing up to vote for anyone else. That is the reason why republicans have done so bad when Trump isn’t on the ballot

They voted for other candidates before trump came around. Even McCain and Romney.
 

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They voted for other candidates before trump came around. Even McCain and Romney.
No they didn’t.

Look at the 2016 and 2020 elections and down ballot and compare that to the midterms during that time.

The reason the Dems outperformed expectations is because trump wasn’t on the ballot at Magas stayed at home
 

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No they didn’t.

Look at the 2016 and 2020 elections and down ballot and compare that to the midterms during that time.

The reason the Dems outperformed expectations is because trump wasn’t on the ballot at Magas stayed at home
I thought the issue was that MAGA candidates won their primaries and more sensible voters passed on them
 

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No they didn’t.

Look at the 2016 and 2020 elections and down ballot and compare that to the midterms during that time.

The reason the Dems outperformed expectations is because trump wasn’t on the ballot at Magas stayed at home

Im pretty sure Desantis's favorables among Republican voters were higher than Trump's a few months back (they still might be). Repubs genuinely like him a lot, they just like Trump more.

They will vote for DeSantis rather than allow 4 more years of Biden.
 

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No they didn’t.

Look at the 2016 and 2020 elections and down ballot and compare that to the midterms during that time.

The reason the Dems outperformed expectations is because trump wasn’t on the ballot at Magas stayed at home

Are you telling me you believe MAGA voters were people who never voted until trump came around?

MAGA voters = Tea Party voters
 

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In 2024, DeSantis is definitely a better GE candidate.

But Trump is also a lunatic who might be facing 4 indictments come December. He's noticeably crazier than he was in 2016, and some of his policy proposals this time around, more than the last time, are batshyt crazy.

Being a better GE candidate than Trump is not saying much.
 

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I feel like Trump has turned into the proverbial Hillary. People are going to vote for Biden because it’s not voting for Trump.

Either way, this gerontocracy needs to end. :sadcam:
 

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I thought the issue was that MAGA candidates won their primaries and more sensible voters passed on them

Im pretty sure Desantis's favorables among Republican voters were higher than Trump's a few months back (they still might be). Repubs genuinely like him a lot, they just like Trump more.

They will vote for DeSantis rather than allow 4 more years of Biden.

Are you telling me you believe MAGA voters were people who never voted until trump came around?

MAGA voters = Tea Party voters
There’s a section of rural white voters that were not consistent voters until Trump ran for president. These are the MAGA I’m referring too

Republicans outperform expectations in 2016 and 2022 because they showed up to vote for Trump

Democrats outperformed expectations in 2018, the special elections in Georgia in 2021 and 2022 because these maga voters didn’t show up because Trump wasn’t on the ballot

These voters are not going to show up to vote for desantis just because he’s republican. They only care about Trump and Desantis isn’t trump no matter how much he tries to be. No one is Trump
 
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