The Question Progressives Refuse to Answer - As Democrats became the party of proceduralism, they sidestepped a crucial debate.

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more housing > less housing

Sixteen million homes currently sit vacant across the U.S. Despite how many houses are in the U.S., millions remain empty across the country while hundreds of thousands of Americans face homelessness. Vacant homes and buildings often succumb to the elements and deteriorate due to leaks, damage and general lack of maintenance before ever finding a buyer willing to pay their inflated prices. An abundance of vacant homes on the market are also attributed to rising rent and home prices.
 

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Sixteen million homes currently sit vacant across the U.S. Despite how many houses are in the U.S., millions remain empty across the country while hundreds of thousands of Americans face homelessness. Vacant homes and buildings often succumb to the elements and deteriorate due to leaks, damage and general lack of maintenance before ever finding a buyer willing to pay their inflated prices. An abundance of vacant homes on the market are also attributed to rising rent and home prices.
You’re talking about single family homes, genius.

I’m not.
 
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You’re talking about single family homes, genius.

I’m not.
"homes" and "housing units" are used synonymously throughout this piece. it comes from census data that was focused on all types of housing. they definitely should have kept the wording more consistent, but it is including all types of homes
 

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the guy using this account who normally makes racial politics his guiding principal must be on a lunch break. even a black neoliberal would try to include some DEI in urban planning.

if you really want corporations to gentrify certain populations, then why not become a republican? you could do that without being in proximity with people who complain about your ababuses
I been saying it i have no clue why he isn't one. Yes they may be openly bigoted but so is he. They have the same belief systems as him
 

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"homes" and "housing units" are used synonymously throughout this piece. it comes from census data that was focused on all types of housing. they definitely should have kept the wording more consistent, but it is including all types of homes
So you admit, that yes, the increase in bureaucracy has been used to strategically slow the very lack of infrastructure democrats are being blamed for not securing...
 

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Progressives are to blame :hula: Progressives have no pull

Just the usual Nap Democrat smear campaign. Let's not forget he was posting negative Harris articles from right winger for years, under the guise of "important discussion".
 

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Progressives are to blame :hula: Progressives have no pull

Just the usual Nap Democrat smear campaign. Let's not forget he was posting negative Harris articles from right winger for years, under the guise of "important discussion".
He hate people like jimmy dore when he's just like him :mjlol: , they have the same views
 

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Progressives are to blame :hula: Progressives have no pull

Just the usual Nap Democrat smear campaign. Let's not forget he was posting negative Harris articles from right winger for years, under the guise of "important discussion".
Do you think rejecting decades of growth by getting local activists to cry-bully about grandma’s house being pushed to sell for multi-family homes?
 

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Do you think rejecting decades of growth by getting local activists to cry-bully about grandma’s house being pushed to sell for multi-family homes?
Imagine thinking gentrification fixes hopelessness. How maga brain rotted you have to be to think this.
 

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Imagine thinking gentrification fixes hopelessness. How maga brain rotted you have to be to think this.
I’m less interested in fixing homelessness compared to lowering the cost of housing and entry level options for increasingly single young professionals in urban areas that have ceased to house citizens.

People dont want commutes and a lack of easy access to amenities
 

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I’m less interested in fixing homelessness compared to lowering the cost of housing and entry level options for increasingly single young professionals in urban areas that have ceased to house citizens.

People dont want commutes and a lack of easy access to amenities
Gentrification literally does the opposite of lowering the price and cost of entry level homes, in fact it raises the price of homes while additionally making more people homeless. You literally are talking in circles to defend a pro business libertarian view
 

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Gentrification literally does the opposite of lowering the price and cost of entry level homes, in fact it raises the price of homes while additionally making more people homeless. You literally are talking in circles to defend a pro business libertarian view
We need DENSER housing units. I’m not talking about just up cycling old housing. I’m literally talking bout building more shyt.

You’re not even addressing what I'm saying.

and yes, people with means will move into newer more expensive housing and freeing up older stock. But leftists have become so immune to basic economics that the idea that someone might get nicer shyt is an offense to them.

Fact is, those with money have already been locking out the aspirational and struggling out of housing they could compete for because theres so little supply of new housing options.
 

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@Loose calling what I’m saying as “pro business libertarian views” isn’t an argument. You have to address the argument. Labeling the argument isn’t gonna do that thought-terminating-cliche business yall do where you think calling me a name is going to snap me back into line or cause me to avoid some invisible third rail for fear of offending the discourse gods.
 

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So you admit, that yes, the increase in bureaucracy has been used to strategically slow the very lack of infrastructure democrats are being blamed for not securing...
in terms of housing, we already have more housing than unhoused people. the market is withholding the housing from people who cant afford the price the market wants. if capitalists dont find the untapped market lucrative enough, they wont be making more housing for them, and they wont convert existing vacant housing to meet the need.

to the extent that law is used to slow housing down, it is lobbyists paying the kind of candidates you love to introduce trojan horse legislation that may seem woke on the surface but is actually developed in part with corporate interests.
 

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We need DENSER housing units. I’m not talking about just up cycling old housing. I’m literally talking bout building more shyt.

You’re not even addressing what I'm saying.

and yes, people with means will move into newer more expensive housing and freeing up older stock. But leftists have become so immune to basic economics that the idea that someone might get nicer shyt is an offense to them.

Fact is, those with money have already been locking out the aspirational and struggling out of housing they could compete for because theres so little supply of new housing options.
That's the opposite of what abundance is arguing, abundance is arguing we should have LESS red tape for developers. Less red tape = more potential for profits and less division planning. If you wanted DENSER housing you would be arguing for MORE red tape for developers which will lead to smaller lots and more multi-family homes. Additionally, you should be arguing for the federal government to become expand with housing development either internally or externally thru private housing vendors
either directly
 
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