White gangster movies being appreciated as Shakespearean tragedies unappreciation thread

[god=nature=we'reFUCKED]

Almost every race and culture contains art about their specific underworld involving vice and power.

 

[MartyMcFly]

These cats are never glorified. Making a great movie doesn't mean you're glorifying anyone in the movie

 

[Jutt]

Scarface doesn't exist? Dead Presidents? New Jack City?


Stop crying like a little girl breh. If you dont like it, dont watch it

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

What's the point of this thread? Who doesn't like mob or gangster flicks? And who is appreciating them as much as the works of Shakespeare?

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

A lot of those gangster movies are great...a great movie is a great movie.

With that said, Black Mass is wack.

 

[Mr. Pink]

I don't think anyone is taking a "that was then, this is now" stance on this or other mob films. That said, the racism and long-term socio-economic impact of their reigns is something rarely touched on and an angle worth exploring. Although I wonder if a narrative dion would be the best vehicle for that message.

They actually touched on this a little in The Sopranos with the HUD scam. It's very overt at 07.52

 

[HHR]

They actually touched on this a little in The Sopranos with the HUD scam. It's very overt at 07.52

Nice pull. They also had multiple scenes of Italian families (Dr. Melfi's) decrying the representation of Italian Americans as mobsters. Such a great show.

 

[jadillac]

Thanks for the correction breh. I guess I was really just lumping in all white mob movies, whether its about the russians, irish, italians or cowboy outlaws.

Yeah it like Jessie and frank James. They're all scumbags who murdered and stolre but they're revered by most Americans.

But if they were black it'd be different no doubt.

Also, at this point I hate the love affair of Scarface amongsgt rappers.

 

[satam55]

This thread is a long time coming. After seeing all of the commercials and seeing the following interview, I finally reached my moment with Italian mob movies



Personally, I'm tired of this shyt. We can't even get a damn movie based in Egypt to portray black character. But we have to sit through the glorification of the Italian mob which held back the advancement of black and brown people throughout the US since the Reconstruction era?

Can you imagine a movie about Tookie Williams or King David in which their stories are characterized as "shakespearean tragedies?" Can you imagine a muhfukka in a hollywood interview for Tookie Williams, proudly proclaiming that he was Tookie's character witness or proudly stating that he was "in awe of his mystique?"

Why the fukk are we okay with a movie about a South Boston gangster form the 70s - 90s as if Boston isn't notorious for racial segregation/the mob isn't one of the biggest enforcers of racial segregation north of the mason dixie?

WTF? OP is reaching AF & making 2 different points that have nothing to do with each other.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

irish mob

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Fish for struggle daps brehs. White washing of Egyptian flicks has nothing to do with gangster movies

 

[HHR]

Yeah it like Jessie and frank James. They're all scumbags who murdered and stolre but they're revered by most Americans.

But if they were black it'd be different no doubt.

Also, at this point I hate the love affair of Scarface amongsgt rappers.

LOL @ revered

Notorious =/= revered

 

[jadillac]

LOL @ revered

Notorious =/= revered

They are revered by many if not most Americans. As is the whole supposed "wild west" era

I stand by whayt I said.

 

[HHR]

They are revered by many if not most Americans. As is the whole supposed "wild west" era

I stand by whayt I said.

You're nuts.

 

[jadillac]

You're nuts.

People love songs about them, reading books about them, watch movies about them, quote them etc.......while these dudes were lowly criminals. There's a level of admiration there.

But I'm the one who's nuts? Lol. OK.