White bernie-bro purity leftists are attacking hardworking black politicians

[NoMayo15]

How does a voting block ever get what they want if they simply continue to fall in line and do what they're told? At some point the powers that be know we don't have to address them because they'll vote for us anyway.

Can you think of a group that's like that right now?

No, in fact, I can't think of a group like that. And if you're hinting at AA's, should I pull up the long list of things the previous administration did that was posted earlier?

Being an adult means making concessions and sacrificing. Getting 80% of what you want is much better than getting 0%.

So if you don't actually value liberal principles, and you're okay with an utter buffoon representing the highest office, then by all means stay home in November 2020.

But for the rest of us adults, who realize the world doesn't revolve around just us, we'll continue trying to get the best candidate selected in the primary and then elected in the general. If a non-optimal person is selected, so be it. But they must have larger character flaws than having chose the wrong profession for me to be complicit in Trump's reelection.

 

[DirtyD]

What did I say?

You said something that was incorrect. Clinton's incompetence and the following reasons had much more to do with Trump's victory than lack of support from progressives.

What changed was the importance of identity. Attitudes toward immigration, toward black Americans, and toward Muslims were more correlated with voting Republican in 2016 than in 2012. Put a little differently, Barack Obama won re-election with the support of voters who held negative views toward blacks, Muslims, and immigrants. Sides notes that “37 percent of white Obama voters had a less favorable attitude toward Muslims” while 33 percent said “illegal immigrants” were “mostly a drain.” A separate analysis from political scientists Sam Popkin and Doug Rivers (and unrelated to the Voter Study Group) finds that 20 to 25 percent of white voters who oppose interracial dating—a decent enough proxy for racial prejudice—voted for Obama.* Not all of this occurred during the 2016 campaign—a number of white Obama voters shifted to the GOP in the years following his re-election. Nonetheless, writes Sides, “the political consequences in 2016 were the same: a segment of white Democrats with less favorable attitudes toward these ethnic and religious minorities were potential or actual Trump voters.”

This is a portrait of the most common Obama-to-Trump voter: a white American who wants government intervention in the economy but holds negative, even prejudiced, views toward racial, ethnic, and religious minorities. In 2012, these voters seemed to value economic liberalism over a white, Christian identity and backed Obama over Romney. By 2016, the reverse was true: Thanks to Trump’s campaign, and the events of the preceding years, they valued that identity over economic assistance. In which case, you can draw an easy conclusion about the Clinton campaign—even accounting for factors like misogyny and James Comey’s twin interventions, it failed to articulate an economic message strong enough to keep those populists in the fold and left them vulnerable to Trump’s identity appeal. You could then make a firm case for the future: To win them back, you need liberal economic populism.

The low turnout for Clinton had little to do with her black support and everything to do with the effective campaign of voter suppression run by Republicans, one that has decimated accessible options for people of color. This election illustrates the importance of alternatives to the current voting system, which continues to actively disenfranchise marginalized populations subject to numerous barriers to entry. It’s time to update the ballot box to make sure everyone’s voice is being heard.

The real reason black voters didn’t turn out for Hillary Clinton — and how to fix it

It's easy to blame Clinton's loss on people on the left, but that doesn't mean it is correct.

 

[winb83]

No, in fact, I can't think of a group like that. And if you're hinting at AA's, should I pull up the long list of things the previous administration did that was posted earlier?

Being an adult means making concessions and sacrificing. Getting 80% of what you want is much better than getting 0%.

So if you don't actually value liberal principles, and you're okay with an utter buffoon representing the highest office, then by all means stay home in November 2020.

But for the rest of us adults, who realize the world doesn't revolve around just us, we'll continue trying to get the best candidate selected in the primary and then elected in the general. If a non-optimal person is selected, so be it. But they must have larger character flaws than having chose the wrong profession for me to be complicit in Trump's reelection.

This is a very drawn out way of you saying you'll vote for whoever the party tells you to vote for.

Much of the rest of the country isn't like you. Trump won because he inspired people to vote for him. It might have been all based on lies but people would rather vote for someone than against someone else.

That whole we have to keep X out of office so use your vote to do that is a losing strategy and if you wanna continue to delude yourself into thinking it work maybe you should reflect on the last 4 elections we've had. It's always failed. Voting for Kerry to block Bush failed. People voted for Obama because they believed in him. Romney failed to inspire his party and that whole vote to get rid of Obama movement failed. Clinton was said to be the best option to keep Trump out and guess who is president now.

What you're talking about has a proven track record of not working.

 

[Stone Cold]

This is a very drawn out way of you saying you'll vote for whoever the party tells you to vote for.

Much of the rest of the country isn't like you. Trump won because he inspired people to vote for him. It might have been all based on lies but people would rather vote for someone than against someone else.

That whole we have to keep X out of office so use your vote to do that is a losing strategy and if you wanna continue to delude yourself into thinking it work maybe you should reflect on the last 4 elections we've had. It's always failed. Voting for Kerry to block Bush failed. People voted for Obama because they believed in him. Romney failed to inspire his party and that whole vote to get rid of Obama movement failed. Clinton was said to be the best option to keep Trump out and guess who is president now.

What you're talking about has a proven track record of not working.

Repeating the same mistakes is what adults do

 

[winb83]

Repeating the same mistakes is what adults do

My first time was John Kerry. I fell for it then. I voted for Kerry to keep Bush out and it failed.
My second time was Hillary Clinton I voted for her to keep Trump out and it failed.

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

So the best strategy is to not vote and ensure a dangerous clown like trump and the complicit GOP win again just because the democratic candidate (s) doesn't appeal to you and others like yourself. that's the dumbest thing I have heard in a while and highly illogical. also shows you have no loyalty whatsoever. To paraphrase the great Bill shankly "if you can't support us at our worst (subjective) don't support us at our best" You and others like yourself can go form another political party and have bernie sanders as its leader.

I have no problem doing that. You democrat supporting goofs can continue to be republican lite and lose elections. I don't want to be part of a lowlife party with no morals.

 

[the cac mamba]

trump is gonna win again

hes not running :deadjay:

he didnt even expect to win this time. theres NO FUKCIN WAY that he runs in 2020 and risks a loss. he'll bow out and declare himself a winner

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

By the way, to prove the Indian male nurse OP and his ilk are pathetic and stupid, why aren't white Bernie bros attacking Nina Turner?

*insert juelz splainin gif here*

 

[winb83]

By the way, to prove the Indian male nurse OP and his ilk are pathetic and stupid, why aren't white Bernie bros attacking Nina Turner?

*insert juelz splainin gif here*

Why isn't the establishment pushing her into the national limelight?

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

Keith Ellison has accomplished more than Booker and Kamala combined. Don't see the establishment democrats pushing him to run for president. Interesting how that works.

 

[winb83]

Keith Ellison has accomplished more than Booker and Kamala combined. Don't see the establishment democrats pushing him to run for president. Interesting how that works.

shyt they wouldn't even let him run the DNC and he's a Muslim so that would be a tough sell.

 

[NZA]

how many of these establishment warriors defended keith ellison from the anti-muslim smear campaign that kept him from DNC chair with the same vigor they use to go at bernie bros?

 

[Stone Cold]

Why isn't the establishment pushing her into the national limelight?

toxic masculinity and racism

 

[the cac mamba]

Whatever they want to call themselves better get used to living Afghanistan like conditions if that's the case. Thanks again for getting Trump elected btw.

actually, the DNC allowed trump to be elected. they couldnt shake their obligation to hillary buying the nom in 08

this is the part where id like you to tell me im lying

 

[winb83]

how many of these establishment warriors defended keith ellison from the anti-muslim smear campaign that kept him from DNC chair with the same vigor they use to go at bernie bros?

Ellison lost the job because the establishment wanted Perez. Then they gave him that made up BS position and told him to fall in line which he seemingly has.