Which Religion Has The Highest Body Count?

[Type Username Here]

Are you fukking kidding me?

@Type Username Here as a brasileiros how do you feel about the aforementioned statements? Accurate?

I can understand what he is saying, since you and I have had this discussion ourselves before. I just feel like it's a cop out at times.

Politics play a role. Greed and power play a role. Blow backs, foreign policy, etc.. Those all play a role.

But if at the end of the day you convince a group of people to do an action by pointing towards a piece of text in a holy book, how is religion not to blame? The puppet master might using religion as the strings to make the puppet move, but it doesn't change the fact that the strings are helping facilitate the moving.

As far as Shogun goes, I think he forgets all of the actions of the Church that don't involve direct war. South America has been laid to waste by the Catholic Church, and it goes on until this day. How many countless Central/South Americans and Africans needlessly died because the Church, up until recently, advocated not using birth control and contraceptives? How many new AIDS victims or starving Children dead were a result of that? How many gays are being killed around the world because of what the bible says about homosexuality? What does politics have to do with that? Wherever the European forces landed, the Catholic Church came with it, and the Church brought a lot of violence with it.

I think we tend to forget how much politics and religion were intertwined, especially during the Middle Ages. You literally had monarchies claiming they had a right to rule based on Divine Rights. People actually believed that.

 

[acri1]

Hitler wasn't an atheist, so with that. Not that it's a religion anyway.

Anyway, I'd probably have to go with Christianity.

 

[Type Username Here]

I'm in disbelief how many of you are reluctant to say Christianity.

Christianity in the Middle Ages makes Radical Islam look like secular humanism.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Religion can be directly attributed to about 8% of all conflicts for the past several thousand years of recorded history.

More people have died due to secular reasons than religion.

With that said, Christianity wins.​

 

[Danie84]

My religion: Christianity, been throwing bodies in the bushes from the beginning of time...allegedly

 

[Ikwa]

Hitler wasn't an atheist, so with that. Not that it's a religion anyway.

Anyway, I'd probably have to go with Christianity.

Atheism has had the highest bodycount of the 20th century. Simply demonic leaders for a demonic way of thinking

 

[noon]

Anybody naming atheism as a religion is missing a few brain cells.

 

[Bondye Vodou]

Anybody naming atheism as a religion is missing a few brain cells.

dem nikkaz just mad atheists keep exposing they shyt.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Anybody naming atheism as a religion is missing a few brain cells.

US Department of Justice is missing a few brain cells, then......​

http://www.tennessean.com/assets/pdf/DN210781825.pdf​

Non-theistic beliefs may qualify as religious beliefs.

Non-theistic beliefs, including atheism, may qualify as “religious” beliefs in various contexts because they pertain to religion and fulfill a similar role in a person’s life:

[W]hen a person sincerely holds beliefs dealing with issues of “ultimate concern” that for her occupy a “place parallel to that filled by . . . God in traditionally religious persons,” those beliefs represent her religion. We have already indicated that atheism may be considered, in this specialized sense, a religion.

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[noon]

Well in that case list my favourite hobby as 'not skiing' and my hair colour as bald.

Those things are bullshyt. Atheism isn't religion.

 

[Blackking]

fixed

inaccurate fix and u know it.

 

[Blackking]

Religion can be directly attributed to about 8% of all conflicts for the past several thousand years of recorded history.

More people have died due to secular reasons than religion.

.​

CAN ANYONE COME HERE AND DISPUTE THIS CLAIM?

 

[88m3]

There have been a lot of Christian nations, empires and civilizations but I have a hard time thinking of more than a dozen instances when their stated goals were the advance of their religion or to kill specifically for their religion. Islam on the other hand it's always been genocide and slavery in the name of their religion to this very day.

 

[ill]

There is a point in all of this that religion has always been just an excuse for people to gain wealth and power. The nature of man is not to defend his religion but to gain power. The whole alpha male thing revolves around power. Religion is just a means to gain that power.

 

[Broke Wave]

I can understand what he is saying, since you and I have had this discussion ourselves before. I just feel like it's a cop out at times.

Politics play a role. Greed and power play a role. Blow backs, foreign policy, etc.. Those all play a role.

But if at the end of the day you convince a group of people to do an action by pointing towards a piece of text in a holy book, how is religion not to blame? The puppet master might using religion as the strings to make the puppet move, but it doesn't change the fact that the strings are helping facilitate the moving.

As far as Shogun goes, I think he forgets all of the actions of the Church that don't involve direct war. South America has been laid to waste by the Catholic Church, and it goes on until this day. How many countless Central/South Americans and Africans needlessly died because the Church, up until recently, advocated not using birth control and contraceptives? How many new AIDS victims or starving Children dead were a result of that? How many gays are being killed around the world because of what the bible says about homosexuality? What does politics have to do with that? Wherever the European forces landed, the Catholic Church came with it, and the Church brought a lot of violence with it.

I think we tend to forget how much politics and religion were intertwined, especially during the Middle Ages. You literally had monarchies claiming they had a right to rule based on Divine Rights. People actually believed that.

Yeah we've had countless discussions on this topic and my position of absolving blame completely has definitely evolved. It's obvious that the specific religious institution, whether centralized or not, has to take the blame for whatever is committed in its name. Even if it is due to a cognitive dissonance, the members of that group must acknowledge it. Not necessarily condemn it, I don't like how every time someone with the last name Ahmed does something stupid, or a black person, or anyone really, the community has to show how different they are in the face of the West.

The Catholic Church literally had silver mines in the Andes that killed hundreds of thousands of people using primitive methods of transportation and extraction in the worst conditions imaginable. Whether it is a part of Christian doctrine at that point is irrelevant, it was done by a group pro-porting to be a part of Christianity.

On a side note, I find it funny how he uses very stringent criteria and advocates for the correct context to answer a thread title which is obviously tounge-in-cheek.



1. "Religion with the most Body-Count" Prof Anne a$$hole, Harvard University , Harper Collins 2013 Print Pg 13-93