Where will Revis be in the "Top 100 Rank" wednesday?

[Trip]

Well you do understand Willis is the MLB, basically the QB of the defense. A great MLB is far more important than a great CB. But I will agree the MLB is nowhere near as valuable as the QB

But either way, 49ers fan don't have to worry about that because when we signed Willis to a deal he didn't try and grandstad and get more from the organization.

He is a class act.

stop...STOP. just stop.

You cant throw this bullshyt at me. Your argument was teams win with B rated corners, but then go on to say ILB is far more important, whent he Giants just won the Super Bowl with Chase fukking Blackburn being picked up out of human resources at UPS?

Stop.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Thinking a great corner stops a great passing offense is as foolish as thinking as sandbags was gonna stop Katrina.

People who come with this always display their lack of knowledge of the game.

Please...TEAR DOWN my belief that there's an advantage for a defensive coordinator in knowing he has 10 rather than 9 players to work with when he has one corner that doesn't need help.

MOST defenses that are called in the NFL require that safety help. Am I WRONG for KNOWING that a corner that allows you to free up another man makes your defense more dynamic and flexible?

You have yet to show how it doesn't help.

It's no different than a DE who forces two people to block him and free up another man.

You're looking at the corner position by name only. If Revis allows you to free up another man in the secondary, it's no different than JPP allowing you to free up another player as well.

 

[heisenburrr]

let's keep in mind as well that the impact a DE like JPP has is far more APPARENT than the impact Revis has

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

stop...STOP. just stop.

You cant throw this bullshyt at me. Your argument was teams win with B rated corners, but then go on to say ILB is far more important, whent he Giants just won the Super Bowl with Chase fukking Blackburn being picked up out of human resources at UPS?

Stop.

Look at the Ravens, that defense has been top 10 for almost every year Ray Lewis been there. And he's a HOFer, 1st ballot.

His level of excellence allowed a D to be built around him and be top 10 for over a decade.

The MLB is more important just due to the fact a lot of times he is the one making the adjustments on D. He is on the run, can cover the TE and RB's out of the backfield and put fear in the offense.

CB just covers his guy and effects that guy only.

 

[Trip]

Look at the Ravens, that defense has been top 10 for almost every year Ray Lewis been there. And he's a HOFer, 1st ballot.

His level of excellence allowed a D to be built around him and be top 10 for over a decade.

The MLB is more important just due to the fact a lot of times he is the one making the adjustments on D. He is on the run, can cover the TE and RB's out of the backfield and put fear in the offense.

CB just covers his guy and effects that guy only.

Willis has made the playoffs once in 5 years and didnt even play the entire year last year.

Both Smith's are more valuable to the Niners defense.

 

[heisenburrr]

Look at the Ravens, that defense has been top 10 for almost every year Ray Lewis been there. And he's a HOFer, 1st ballot.

His level of excellence allowed a D to be built around him and be top 10 for over a decade.

The MLB is more important just due to the fact a lot of times he is the one making the adjustments on D. He is on the run, can cover the TE and RB's out of the backfield and put fear in the offense.

CB just covers his guy and effects that guy only.

 

[NYC Rebel]

let's keep in mind as well that the impact a DE like JPP has is far more APPARENT than the impact Revis has

That's because we don't have a coaches cam on screen to focus on what the secondary is ding during the course of a play.

Ask offensive coordinators if its APPARENT what Revis does to help the Jets scheme.

I can honestly say in my 30 plus years of football, I never saw a defense based on its corner play like I have this dude. The entire Jets defense is predicated on his ability to shut down a receiver without much help.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

let's keep in mind as well that the impact a DE like JPP has is far more APPARENT than the impact Revis has

It is far more apparent because it is far more impactful.

A great DE can get to the QB, make the hits that throws off the whole timing of the offense. He also can be a force in the run game which shuts down one whole aspect of the offense, ad to the fact when sacking the QB he has a much higher chance at creating/forcing a fumble/turnover.

Now turn your eyes to the corner, who can shut down one player completely. But all a QB has to do is look the other way and find the other guy whose open. A great CB is awesome if all the offense has is 1 great WR and a bunch of bums elsewhere, but that is hardly ever the case.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Wasn't there for the ring.

Keep going though.

I`m not saying he hasn't had greats around him, but he was the chief of that defense for over a decade, with many different parts and the 1 constant was Lewis in the middle.

 

[heisenburrr]

That's because we don't have a coaches cam on screen to focus on what the secondary is ding during the course of a play.

Ask offensive coordinators if its APPARENT what Revis does to help the Jets scheme.

I can honestly say in my 30 plus years of football, I never saw a defense based on its corner play like I have this dude. The entire Jets defense is predicated on his ability to shut down a receiver without much help.

im on your side breh

that's what I'm saying, sacks, pressure are more apparent but not necessarily more impactful than shuting down the whole side of a field

 

[Trip]

im on your side breh

that's what I'm saying, sacks, pressure are more apparent but not necessarily more impactful than shuting down the whole side of a field

Imagine if the retards in the Jets front office could actually find a pass rusher

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Willis has made the playoffs once in 5 years and didnt even play the entire year last year.

Both Smith's are more valuable to the Niners defense.

You may have a point with Justin, not Aldon though. Aldon is great but he's a situational player, he rarely ever made any contributions against the run, so I can't put him there.

T

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Imagine if the retards in the Jets front office could actually find a pass rusher

COPLES

 

[NYC Rebel]

im on your side breh

that's what I'm saying, sacks, pressure are more apparent but not necessarily more impactful than shuting down the whole side of a field

My bad.

People really don't get how much a great cover corner impacts the game.

People like Last Emp would like to stick to their agenda of a defensive coordinators NOT taking advantage of having 10 other players to scheme with when having a great corner handling someone one on one.

That is a luxury.

 

[heisenburrr]

COPLES

yeah if he ends up working out for them him and Maybin will do a fine job I think