Where US Black people date/smash each other (and not) by education and location (the DrBanneker data guide)

[Wiseborn]

This is a good point. One other point I could make, and I have some data but haven't put it together, that many of the areas with the highest IR rates for Black people are also areas where there is a net out-migration of Black population overall. So often people who don't like the setup leave (usually for the South) and it selects out those who are left.

exactly. There's a lot of talk about "passport bros" but even Bill Nunn said he went to Atlanta because he heard it was 7 to 1 out there.

Melissa Harris Perry (who works at Tulane) told Black women if they wanted a Black Man move down south. If a Black person moves to Idaho they know what's up.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

The numbers are directionally accurate, but it is actually kind of hard to tell for young people since the numbers fluctuate so much but that isn't the best table. That table shows the percentage of people by race that have an associate's degree higher broken out by sex so isn't exactly the number that is comparable.

A good table is here and is the percentage of persons 25-29 that have a certain level of education. What is odd is how the numbers fluctuate so much. So I averaged the percentage of Black men and women and it was 22% of Black men and 26% of Black women 25-29 with bachelor's or higher before COVID.
Data from this link show the ratio of Black women to men in the 25-29 age category is 1.08:1 so it was about 78 men to 100 women with bachelor's or higher.

After COVID though, Black men's college degree gaining crashed and for 2021 19.7% of Black men and 32.1% of Black women have degrees in that age group which would take current data down to 57 to 100 but this is probably skewed by a lot of young dudes that missed out on college bc of COVID.

The thing is White and Hispanic women aren't clean sailing either since there are only about 82 White men per 100 White women in that age group with a Bachelor's or higher. Hispanic men are right with Black men in 2021 at 19.6% of 25-29 yo with Hispanic women at 27.1% so 72 per 100 but there are more Hispanic men than women in that age group so it helps some (though that may be due to immigrants being male usually).

So all women of all races are going to be looking for the same smaller group of men. Also given the fact Asian women and Latina women choose on White guys hard I think educated White women may be getting that 1990s Black woman feeling in the next decade.

Great analysis.

Makes you wonder if white women will push harder to secure promising Black men or will they be stubborn and fight for white boy scraps.

They seem to struggle between enjoying the benefits of white supremacy versus enjoying gender equality. The white broads I've seen/known either want a traditional Christian type breh or an intellectual that supports women (not including hood white chicks). The moderate ones date white boys or white-adjacent Hispanic dudes.

 

[Wiseborn]

Great analysis.

Makes you wonder if white women will push harder to secure promising Black men or will they be stubborn and fight for white boy scraps.

They seem to struggle between enjoying the benefits of white supremacy versus enjoying gender equality. The white broads I've seen/known either want a traditional Christian type breh or an intellectual that supports women (not including hood white chicks). The moderate ones date white boys or white-adjacent Hispanic dudes.

I don't want to big up white women too much but they are adaptable and get in where they fit in.

That's the one thing Black women could and should learn from white women.

#1. Other than a Liberal political lens they don't generally criticize white boys as a group, They keep the door open to coming back unless they have a slew of biracial chidren.
2. They roll with those that roll with them let a white bytch ass extend past her hips and she becomes a "pawg" and chases Black celebrities or becomes an only fans model who does boy girl scenes with Black Men.

If a Black woman has a narrow ass and or grew up in a mixed environment and is really pretty then it might make sense to go after white dudes (without shytting on Black Men in the process) Just like it would make sense for a Black woman with a 50 inch ass to go after Black celebrities.

To answer you question other than increased white single mother rates and less white people overall white women will assort themselves better there's already white girls with Spanish dudes and Asian bro's so that will continue. white chicks will use their status of whiteness to appeal to immigrants of all races to get wifed up.

 

[Dave24]

Great analysis.

Makes you wonder if white women will push harder to secure promising Black men or will they be stubborn and fight for white boy scraps.

They seem to struggle between enjoying the benefits of white supremacy versus enjoying gender equality. The white broads I've seen/known either want a traditional Christian type breh or an intellectual that supports women (not including hood white chicks). The moderate ones date white boys or white-adjacent Hispanic dudes.

@IsThatBrothaMouzone? do white women consider Dwayne Johnson white-adjacent?

 

[Suge Shot Me]

@DrBanneker

Great thread.

I've been looking at that CDC Wonder data for years. It's really fascinating. They used to have data going back to the 90s (and I think the 80s, can't remember), but changed up several years ago. Still a great tool.

What do you make of this study that found that BM/WW couples had a significantly higher pregnancy rate than BM/BW couples, and WM/BW couples had a significantly lower one? Birth data may be overstating the percentage of black men who date/marry out and somewhat underestimating that for black women.

https://doi.org/10.1111/jomf.12483

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

@IsThatBrothaMouzone? do white women consider Dwayne Johnson white-adjacent?

No idea...racially ambiguous. He strikes me as "something" but definitely not white. Like a more "ethnic" Vin Diesel....he can be whatever race they want him to be. Samoan with Soul?

 

[DrBanneker]

@DrBanneker

Great thread.

I've been looking at that CDC Wonder data for years. It's really fascinating. They used to have data going back to the 90s (and I think the 80s, can't remember), but changed up several years ago. Still a great tool.

What do you make of this study that found that BM/WW couples had a significantly higher pregnancy rate than BM/BW couples, and WM/BW couples had a significantly lower one? Birth data may be overstating the percentage of black men who date/marry out and somewhat underestimating that for black women.

https://doi.org/10.1111/jomf.12483

That's a dope link, I never knew that study existed. You could be right then about the undercount/overcount though I am not sure how much we can say it is. CDC Wonder still has the old data I think but the racial classification got re-arranged a bunch of times. You do data science or demographics?

 

[Suge Shot Me]

You do data science or demographics?

Nah, just a casual interest.