Where do Juicy J and DJ Paul rank as Hip Hop producers?

[28 Gramz]

Nope. Objectively speaking, those albums are still impactful and influential albums in Hip Hop. They pioneered.

The modern trap sound used today was basically pioneered by Three Six/Project Pat. All the tracks above are remakes/samples/freestyles from just Mista Don't Play alone. Pioneering and influence is one argument you won't win when it comes to them.

 

[Mastamimd]

The modern trap sound used today was basically pioneered by Three Six/Project Pat. All the tracks above are remakes/samples/freestyles from Mista Don't Play alone. Pioneering and influence is one argument you won't win when it comes to them.

Not to mention that "objectively speaking" bullshyt comes from an east coast point of view

We don't give a shyt about their "objective" opinion dog

 

[Reptile]

Objectively speaking, which Hypnotize Minds albums are we putting on the level of:

Kast- Southernplayalistic
Kast-ATLiens
Kast-Aquemini
Goodie Mob- Soul Food
UGK-Ridin' Dirty
Eightball & MJG- Comin Out Hard
Eightball & MJG- On Top Of The World
Eightball & MJG- In Our Lifetime
Juvenile- 400 Degreez


I have DJ Paul & Juicy J in my Top 5-10 of Southern producers and Top 25-30 overall.

As far as production? The End, World Domination, Ghetty Green, Kaze Times Up, King Of Da Playaz Ball, Angel Dust, WTSC. Hell the albums I named are better than 400 Degreez for sure. Thats not even the best produced album on CMB

Mista Don't Play is better than the majority of that list.

You need to stop with this. MDP isnt a good album.

 

[Reptile]

Nope. Objectively speaking, those albums are still impactful and influential albums in Hip Hop. They pioneered. Those first three Kast albums definitely pioneered ATL and Southern Hip Hop as a whole and made an indelible mark on not just Hip Hop, but music in general. What is Memphis Hip Hop or even Project Pat without those Eightball & MJG albums? Ridin' Dirty is a pillar of Southern Hip Hop. 400 Degreez was a moment in Hip Hop off "Ha", "Back That" and "400 Degreez" alone.

Something being more impactful and influential doesnt means its better (though dude bringing up MDP aint helping his or my case tbh)

 

[Mastamimd]

As far as production? The End, World Domination, Ghetty Green, Kaze Times Up, King Of Da Playaz Ball, Angel Dust, WTSC. Hell the albums I named are better than 400 Degreez for sure. Thats not even the best produced album on CMB

You need to stop with this. MDP isnt a good album.

I was with you until that last set

WHAT

 

[Reptile]

I was with you until that last set

WHAT

What last set? What you talking bout?

 

[Mastamimd]

What last set? What you talking bout?

Sentence my bad. How is MDP a bad album

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Probably the most influential producers all time. Their "trap sound" which existed before trap was a thing, at least a thing to the mainstream, and their demonic lo-fi stuff from the early 90s is just as dope if not better.

Beats from Mista Don't Play sounds like they came out this year, and that album is damn near 25 years old.

Mystic Stylez is pretty much the dirty south 36 Chambers.

 

[Reptile]

Sentence my bad. How is MDP a bad album

its not bad, its just not as good as wed like to think. The beats are amongst Paul and Juicy most uninspired and generic. Every project HCP put out that year aside from The Choices soundtrack (of fukking course, they saved the best beats for the soundtrack for the movie) had weak beats. Real Recognize Real and Loud Pack had WAY better beats.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

its not bad, its just not as good as wed like to think. The beats are amongst Paul and Juicy most uninspired and generic. Every project HCP put out that year aside from The Choices soundtrack (of fukking course, they saved the best beats for the soundtrack for the movie) had weak beats. Real Recognize Real and Loud Pack had WAY better beats.

I fw Mista Don't Play heavy

 

[Mastamimd]

its not bad, its just not as good as wed like to think. The beats are amongst Paul and Juicy most uninspired and generic. Every project HCP put out that year aside from The Choices soundtrack (of fukking course, they saved the best beats for the soundtrack for the movie) had weak beats. Real Recognize Real and Loud Pack had WAY better beats.

I'm not gonna lie as a dude that moderated a Three 6 forum back in the day I GET it, but still disagree

 

[Eastbmore]

This thread got way off topic, but Mista Don’t play is an album that still has a cult following in the underground. I hear in it Baltimore, Philly, DC, DE, VA to this day ringing bells.

 

[Reptile]

This thread got way off topic, but Mista Don’t play is an album that still has a cult following in the underground. I hear in it Baltimore, Philly, DC, DE, VA to this day ringing bells.

DMV and East coast fukk with Pat like that?

 

[JustCKing]

Probably the most influential producers all time. Their "trap sound" which existed before trap was a thing, at least a thing to the mainstream, and their demonic lo-fi stuff from the early 90s is just as dope if not better.

Beats from Mista Don't Play sounds like they came out this year, and that album is damn near 25 years old.

Mystic Stylez is pretty much the dirty south 36 Chambers.

And this is where they get overrated. They aren't the most influential producers of all time. I don't even consider Timbaland the most influential producer of all time and producers were biting him left and right in the 90's, he was being sampled, even Three Six Mafia was sampling him. Producers who came up within this decade and last cite hom as the inspiration for them to make beats. He is still being sampled now.

Dr. Dre is probably the most influential producer ever.

 

[InGodWeTrust]

Paul and Juice are my favorite producers.

They definitely have an arguement.