Whenever someone says something like "My city didn't bump Biggie and Nas" all you did was admit you and your city wasn't into Hip Hop.

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Snoop Dogg said it best, the East is way too egocentric to realize it's only people from that region that fukk with their music. Like he said, they managed to trick people for a few years because most radio hosts, critics and journalists came from that region, but now that hip hop journalism is over, ain't nobody falling for that bullshyt no more:ehh:
 

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Most hip hop media are from the East coast, which makes you believe everyone in the US is bumping your east coast music, but its not true at all lol. People from the South/West listen to their artists. Some didn't even know who Jay Z was before he married Beyonce:gucci:
The south is not that damn retarded. Who was going to those sell out shows in 1999 in texas, multiple shows in Florida & Atlanta
 

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And that's fine. But all you are doing is confirming you aren't a Hip Hop head. When you listen to a song like BoyZ N The Hood and 8 Ball, Dr Dre who is from Compton, is sampling NYC rappers, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys and Rakim which sets the standard. Comptons Most Wanted sampling BDP on "Growing Up In The Hood." If someone all the way in Compton knows what's popping in NYC then that's the standard.

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If Jay-Z is quoting multiple Bun-b bars, verbatim, does that make Houston the standard? Does modern mainstream NYC artists sharking shytty Trap beats from Atlanta, “drill” from Chicago and the UK make them the standard?
 

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So Europe wasn't bumping east coast music?
It was mostly Snoop, Dre and Pac and then Eminem in 99.
Biggie is pretty much the only one that got spins and people were calling him the "dude tupac was beefing with"...
 

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I moved out of my moms apartment before Nas and he's 5 years older and way more famous.

Biggie was a tether that knew being a smart fat Jamaican nerd with a lazy eye wasnt gone get him no buns and cheese so he had to go sell crack with the FBA’s and other frontin art school nerds on Fulton.

 
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If Jay-Z is quoting multiple Bun-b bars, verbatim, does that make Houston the standard? Does modern mainstream NYC artists sharking shytty Trap beats from Atlanta, “drill” from Chicago and the UK make them the standard?


Jay Z quoting multiple Bun B bars means Jay Z is up on what's popping in Texas like I was in 1991 so he's a real Hip Hop head.

Also, my reference was more towards the 90's. You brining up the current era when the current era is way more acknowledging of other regions. This current era is more 'my personal playlist' based and does not follow the old school 90's tradition of how we got access to music.
 

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It was mostly Snoop, Dre and Pac and then Eminem in 99.
Biggie is pretty much the only one that got spins and people were calling him the "dude tupac was beefing with"...

Nobody was bumping Mobb Deep WU, Nas or Jeru? I see them touring Europe all the time. So who's attending their shows?
 
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What people mean is that they THEMSELVES and their peer group wasn't listening to Nas and Biggie. But one individual can't speak for a entire state

It's that same stupid We don't play Kendrick in the South argument Charleston White tried to make when Dot sells out the South everytime he pull up
 

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You can have different tastes. But NYC is the Mecca. It was the dominant nucleus in the 80's and 90's. Ignoring what NYC was doing is like ignoring what the 90's Chicago Bulls were doing. You got your chest out following Chris Webbers career while with Golden State and The Bullets while totally dismissing Jordans career in the 90's. That's how y'all sound.

Like any city before clear channel, we sought out our own cities music first. The casual listeners were listening to regional music, and whatever out of region stuff coming on the radio.

We loved biggie and pac, but that didn’t compare to our love of so so def, OutKast, goodie mob, intoxicated, shy d, Kilo Ali, Raheem, Memphis artists, Houston artists, NO artists, Luke/ 2 live, etc. Houston and NO was the same way, they had their own full suite of artists and a very healthy music scene with its own sound. I lived in those cities too, growing up.

It was city/region first until there were no regions at all. The average listener didn’t really give a fukk. Hip hop heads in major southern cites just loved hip hop, especially from their own region. My brother and I listened to Biggie, Pac, Wu, a little Jay, and Nas when we could get our hands on the cassette tapes. We might as well had melted our “Nas is Like” single, we played it so much. Pre ‘97 older cousin put us on the NYC stuff that wasn’t on the radio because he was super close with our cousin from Harlem. If it wasn’t for that we probably wouldn’t have heard it until much later on the Internet. As much as we loved those our most beloved tapes were “Atliens”, UGK’s “Ridin Dirty”, “Movin on” by Playa Fly, and “World Domination” by 3-6.

When illmatic dropped You’d be hard pressed to find anybody in Atlanta that knew more Nas outside of “it ain’t hard to tell”; these were people who loved rap. Most of the NY music we heard came from singles being huge radio, or family/friends from NY. We played music from our own cities, then Regions, and anybody who came down to promote and build a relationship with us. Miami, Memphis, Chicago, Houston, and New Orleans built with us early, Bad Boy built a huge relationship with Atlanta too. Pac was basically a honorary resident, Snoop and Suge visited a lot.

HBCU College campuses helped a lot with NYC artists like Wu, Nas, and Jay they were able to bleed into a lot of southern cities off straight word of mouth.

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We understand and recognize that NYC and its sound was first, but once everybody got their own shyt they weren’t the end all be all for other regions and major cities. We might even love and respect it more than its current crop of artists and tastemakers.
 

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Yeah it seems crazy to me. I live in NC and I was a kid, but the radio station played the fukk out of Biggie and Nas. They played all the singles from Life After Death and It Was Written.

The narrative that New York in the 90's was like a "local scene" is crazy. These songs had big music videos and were major label albums, and people didn't have as big a say on what they listened to.

shyt, in NC what the fukk else could we play? We had no rap scene in the 90's and we had to look to other regions. Outkast, Goodie Mob, UGK, Scraface, and Three-Six were the main southern acts I remember hearing around here. But everyone bumped Wu, DMX, Jay, Biggie, Nas, Mobb Deep, LOX, etc.
 

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Sightly off topic, but it's crazy that 50 tried to call Jadakiss a regional act on Piggy Bank when Jada had Snoop Dogg and DJ Quik, Mariah Carey and even his boss Eminem as features on Kiss of Death :heh: No way a NYC regional act would be able to have those types of features in 2004. He had prime Melyssa Ford in one of his music videos for his debut album, how was Jada a regional act 50 :dahell:
I always just took at as 50 exaggerating for the diss to be funny, and I never assumed he thought Jadakiss was literally a local artist.

But yeah in hindsight it's funny
 
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