Whenever someone says something like "My city didn't bump Biggie and Nas" all you did was admit you and your city wasn't into Hip Hop.

[Chip Skylark]

In 2017, NY Times analyzed some streaming data and created a map of where artists are listened to.

They found people on the West Coast didn’t listen to Future like that.

Kendrick Lamar is mostly big on the West Coast.

J. Cole is listened to from coast to coast.

People really slept on this.


I wish I can find an updated version.

 

[Plankton]

If you can show me where big or puff name dropped showbiz and ag even once, I'll give you a lil credit

Until then, you have no evidence to even begin to dispose the obvious

Now you are just trolling. You didn't even show a shred of evidence your damn self. You made a claim with zero proof as if I'm supposed to just take your word for it.

Meanwhile, I literally gave you the timeline of where those G Funk whistles originated that everyone can see....but you purposely ignored it like a troll. Stop trolling.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Now you are just trolling. Fool, you didn't even show a shred of evidence your damn self. You made a claim with zero proof as if I'm supposed to just take your word for it.

Meanwhile, I literally gave you the timeline of where those G Funk whistles originated that everyone can see but you purposely ignored like a troll.

The evidence is the damn album itself

The chronic was a blockbuster of an album that crossed over gangsta rap into the mainstream. Puff, a known dikk rider, wanted to replicate that success for himself, so he created the Notorious B.I.G. imagine for big to ride that west coast wave.

You honestly expect me to believe big poppa draws more influence from two random NY nikkas whose names haven't been spoken of in 30 years or one of the most iconic rap albums of all time

 

[Still Benefited]

I think OP is right outside of his disrespectful tone. If you didnt listen to everything then you arent really a hiphop head. My issue is east coast dudes say that,they really just mean if you werent listening to every tom dikk and harry outta new york. I never see them chastizing people for not listening to B Legit,E40,Mac Dre. Or never listening tona project pat album. But will get upset if you downplay the impact of the east coast equivelant to those guys



One thing to be clear about is most rap fans are not hiphop heads and have no desire to be. And in terms of heiarchy "the streets" dicatate whos who and whats what more than hiphop heads ever did. If you have a legacy in hiphop you were probably hot in the streets somewhere at some time. East coast street rappers dont translate as well outside of New York. Outside of New York people like shyt that SOUNDS hard. In terms of sound and delivery of the rapper. I could get away with playing Bleek more than Jay in the whip. And i remember the B coming getting love. Jay was considered soft shyt,mostly because of how he rapped. That laid back light voice shyt dont fly everywhere


But backpackers and fans of lyricism exist everywhere. They just wasnt as deep as folks would like to believe

 

[Plankton]

Nope, we not doing that.

Where is the evidence of the claim, when you said....

If you can show me where big or puff name dropped showbiz and ag even once

Show me this evidence that Puff and Biggie said Ready To Die was The Chronic/Doggystyle. Since he didn't name drop Showbiz and AG show me where he name dropped Doggystyle.

Post this evidence. I'll wait.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Nope, we not doing that.

Where is the evidence of the claim, when you said....



Show me this evidence that Puff and Biggie said Ready To Die was The Chronic/Doggystyle. Since he didn't name drop Showbiz and AG show me where he name dropped Doggystyle.

Post this evidence. I'll wait.

Since the obvious intro to ready to die seems to have slipped your memory, here you go

How Dr. Dre’s ‘The Chronic’ Inspired The Notorious B.I.G.'s Debut Album ‘Ready to Die’

The Notorious B.I.G. couldn't believe his ears when he heard Dr. Dre's debut album 'The Chronic', and got to work on his own debut.

www.cheatsheet.com

 

[NZA]

most people are not hip hop heads, even the average new yorker is just a casual rap fan.

that being said, people exaggerate how little their region listened to either biggie or jay z. they sold too many records and did too many big shoes all over the nation for that to be true. most likely, they just didnt have a whole hood or project on lock, but had scattered people from all over the state buying music and going to shows.

 

[Plankton]

Since the obvious intro to ready to die seems to have slipped your memory, here you go

How Dr. Dre’s ‘The Chronic’ Inspired The Notorious B.I.G.'s Debut Album ‘Ready to Die’

The Notorious B.I.G. couldn't believe his ears when he heard Dr. Dre's debut album 'The Chronic', and got to work on his own debut.

www.cheatsheet.com

However, it has been rumoured that Dr Dre’s 1992 debut album, The Chronic, inspired Biggie Smalls’ project Ready To Die, which was released two years later. In fact, The Chronic apparently inspired the up-and-coming Brooklyn emcee to kickstart his entire career.


You posted some 3rd party hearsay from a 2 year old book that can't even be proven......Those words never came out of Puffy or Bigs mouth. Puff never co signed anything you claimed. Show me where Puffy said it out of his mouth like you claimed.



And Milk Is Chilling was also on the Ready To Die intro as well as Rappers Delight. So Milk and Rappers Delight also inspired Ready To Die if we going there.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Anyone who says that who was outside in 95-97 is a goddamn liar

People get online and try to act cool in 2024. The same applies to hammer. Supposedly no one was listening to him in 1990 but the Bay Area, but the mf has a diamond record(no streaming, physical sales). I remember the hardest of street dudes riding by playing Hammer back then, but mfers want to get online and lie like no one in their area was listening to Hammer, Biggie, Nas, etc.. The ONLY people I can actually believe saying this are those from Louisiana. I was in the military with guys from LA and I swear none of them had heard of Jay Z in 1997 until I introduced them to him. And he was on his 2nd album. These same guys introduced me to rappers from the state I had never heard of like UNLV, Partners in Crime, BG, and other Cash Money artists before they went national. LA really supported their local rap artists and those within the state back then. They were in their own box.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

However, it has been rumoured that Dr Dre’s 1992 debut album, The Chronic, inspired Biggie Smalls’ project Ready To Die, which was released two years later. In fact, The Chronic apparently inspired the up-and-coming Brooklyn emcee to kickstart his entire career.


You posted some 3rd party hearsay from a 2 year old book that can't even be proven......Those words never came out of Puffy or Bigs mouth. Puff never co signed anything you claimed. Show me where Puffy said it out of his mouth like you claimed.



And Milk Is Chilling was also on the Ready To Die intro. So Milk also inspired Ready To Die if we going there.

That's interesting someone would say that the Chronic inspired biggie to rap being that he was in the Unsigned Hype before the Chronic dropped

 

[SteelCitySoldier]

Music was regional back in the day and everyone didn’t have cable so you didn’t see every music video and the radio only played music that was popular in their region. For a song to go stupid crazy and be heard EVERYWHERE wasn’t common place. I’m 44 and have lived damn near in every region so my music tastes is all over the place.

I live in Arkansas now and I swear when 4:44 dropped everybody down here was talking about Jay. 90% of them hadn’t even heard of shyt earlier than that.

When a muthafuka played me a Big Pokie track and I was like “what the fukk is this” everybody looked at me like and I had to explain this shyt to them and they couldn’t believe it.

Take a song like Crossroads and put it out today, the numbers it did back then would easily be double that today.

 

[Plankton]

That's interesting someone would say that the Chronic inspired biggie to rap being that he was in the Unsigned Hype before the Chronic dropped

The real inspiration for Big Poppa from the people who were actually there not no 3rd party second hand story from someone who wasn't even involved in the album making process:


@Westbama Heartthrob read it and weep:


Matt Lyphe I think another important misconception about the making of that album, the production of that album, is that Puffy was coming up with creative, catchy loops for Big to rhyme on. Big was very savvy himself in thinking of creative, catchy loops to rhyme on. I can remember specifically him telling me: “I’m going to rhyme over that ‘Bonita Applebum’ [A Tribe Called Quest’s 1990 single that sampled the Isley’s Brothers’ ‘Between the Sheets’].” That was his idea. That’s “Big Poppa.” That’s “Between The Sheets.”

They don't even mention Snoop for the Ready To Die intro. They totally skip over Snoop. Some inspiration he was





1. "Intro”
Produced by Sean “Puffy” Combs
Easy Mo Bee The whole story line for the album—starting in the beginning when you hear the robbery happening on the train and “Rapper’s Delight” in the background and everything—that was Puff’s concept: to create a story line for the album. He just gave me a list of records that he wanted and I brought them back to him. He said he wanted “Rapper’s Delight,” Audio Two’s “Top Billin’,” “Superfly.” We had “Got To Give It Up” by Marvin Gaye, [but it got changed] probably for sampling reasons. Songs that explain their era.

The Making of The Notorious B.I.G.'s Ready to Die: Family Business

The story behind Biggie's landmark debut album as told to XXL.

www.xxlmag.com

 

[I'm Blackman]

Or maybe in this big ass country, every region had its own scene where they didn't worship the ground some c00n ass NY nikkas walk on

 

[I'm Blackman]

Jesus Christ yall are insufferable

Not everyone shares your music taste or musical opinion

Y’all don’t get tired of this

This.

I loved Big, Jay, Wu, Nas in 97....but i know a LOT people who didnt listen to that shyt at all.

ive listened to 8ball Lost just as much as big lad. Probably more.

My friends and family mostly bumped southern and west coast rap.

 

[Art Barr]

Admit you are a bandwagon sheltered culture thief with considerable levels.
of being a homebody with mecca envy like toy and goofie breh.

Art Barr