Whenever a song by that clique of bay area rappers came on Rap City it was channel switch on sight

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I agree with you that Hammer was wack.

And I agree Magoo is wack. Glad we're clear on that.
You can dislike the production but you really think Mac Mall or Dru Down were wack rappers?
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Yeah ok, that's why rappers like Ludacris and T.I said he was one of the best new rappers out, and he has a song placement on one of the most played video games every year (Madden). He's been interviewed on every platform (Breakfast Club, Hot 97, Sway, ect.), yet nobody knows him. Ok. You know who he is, but "nobody" knows him. Lol.

I know him because I'm a real hip hop/rap head. I knew of him when he signed with Diddy the 1st time. He's nice no doubt. But the casual rap fan can't name one king Los song :heh:

The kids don't know or give a shyt about King Los. Keep it a stack :childplease:

King Los is a c list rapper that's on the level of Cyhi the prince , red cafe etc.

*Bumps Mully Man* I'm a go harder than Baltimore:pachaha:
 

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Getting to the real point, your biggest point about Hammer is that he pushed Hip Hop into a heavily pop direction...

No, my point is he showed people how to make vapid trash pop music. You can make songs with crossover appeal that are still of quality and have some artistic merit.

... As opposed to anti-pop entities like Timbaland and the Neptunes. :mjlol: Skillz is the only rapper out of VA with any kind of name who ever truly represented for the culture. If you really want to keep this conversation Hip Hop in any kind of purist light, who are VA's answers for
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See above. And I'm not sure how you can say Clipse didn't represent for the culture. They're pure hip-hop.

Hieroglyphics
Hobo Junction
The Coup
Dan The Automator
Paris
Sway & King Tech
Zion I
Conscious Daughters
Equipto
Rasco
Locksmith
Living Legends

And the literal dozens of other Bay Area Hip Hop acts that put on for the culture?

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Never was a fan of Conscious Daughters or Paris. Never heard of Equipto or Locksmith. Everyone else on the list is respectable. I used to be a huge Living Legends fan. This thread was about rappers like those listed in the OP, not them.
 
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nikka Los aint new, that nikka been trying to get on for 14+ years. YOU are starting to sound brand new though

He got out of Diddy's rape contract because of the FEDS so I consider him new pending his newfound freedom to make music.

Black culture and Hip Hop culture are not one and the same. If it was, it wouldn't have been started by the population that started it. Period.

Of course. Hip Hop comes from black culture end of the day. Hip Hop cannot exist without the culture that birthed it. The media keeps trying but it'll never happen.



nikka please.

San Francisco becoming a rich enclave is a process that started in the late 90s, Frisco was like every other American urban center at the time. White folks had their corner of the city and we had our corner.

I would call 93% more than a "corner" for white folks and non blacks.

Our corner was one of the poorest and highest crime black urban centers in the United States of America... Bayview/Visitacion Valley/Potrero Hill/Lakeview/Fillmore/Mission District were all crazy.

Compared to the rest of the city and the SFBA in general yeah it was high. In general no it wasn't. Bougie white folks had yaw thinking it was crazier than it was.

You clearly were never here before the towers (Bernal Dwellings, Geneva Towers, North Beach Place, etc.) were torn down throughout the City... gentrification's been ongoing for the last 25 years, consider yourself lucky you're seeing Frisco at its most gentrified point in history ever. 15 years ago nobody with half a brain slid through the point unless they had family there...

LOL!

Oakland's gentrification has been accelerated dramatically by SF's. As someone who grew up in Oakland I've seen the change take place over the last decade and a half myself.

*Nods*

Your whole viewpoint is seriously delusional though. Gentrification is hitting EVERY urban center in the country from Philly to DC. DC now is literally unrecognizable from even 7 years ago, the uptown of the 90s literally doesn't exist.

Gentrification affects most the areas that blacks and no business being in the first place: The media hubs and tourist cities. Philly, DC, Chicago are tourist cities end of the day. Cities like Gary, Detroit, Memphis, and Atlanta will remain majority black until the end I believe.

Your comments about the Bay Area ain't exactly "wrong" per say

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I know him because I'm a real hip hop/rap head. I knew of him when he signed with Diddy the 1st time. He's nice no doubt. But the casual rap fan can't name one king Los song :heh:

In this new climate where cards get lost in the shuffle I agree. He would need a Drake or Future cosign to fully get on.


The kids don't know or give a shyt about King Los. Keep it a stack :childplease:

King Los is a c list rapper that's on the level of Cyhi the prince , red cafe etc.

Eh...I wouldn't go that far. I think King Los is higher than Cyhi on the food chain (Dope rapper and classic mixtape though) and definitely red cafe (who's a glorified social lite/writer at this point). Although I'll give you Cyhi and King Los technically being on the same tier. Red Cafe is D-list at best, how long ago was "Hardest In The Hood" remix?
 
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